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From: Jon on
I'm enclosing the circuit in a steel gym locker for safety, to prevent fires
and to keep my niece out.


"Cydrome Leader" <presence(a)MUNGEpanix.com> wrote in message
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> Jon <jon8338(a)peoplepc.com> wrote:
>> I built and tested this. It seems to work well enough for what I'm going
>> to
>> use it for. The only problem is it toggles a few times before it
>> latches,
>> but it eventually does latch. This is the fault state where the
>> generator
>> feeds back into the dead grid.
>
> the entire point of a transfer switch is to prevent with 100% certainty,
> (even if the transfer switch faults) output from a generator to back feed
> into the utility grid- because it's a very dangerous situation.
>
> At a minimum, there is nothing at all in what you made that prevents the
> generator output from connecting to the utility.
>
> This is done mechanically in the real world with giant switches where the
> moving contact connects to the load and cannot physically connect to both
> grid and generator or physically connected the generator to the grid.
> There's no way it can fail in a dangerous state, even if you spray the
> control electronics with salt water and then walk up to it and try to run
> with switch in manual mode.
>
>
>

From: JosephKK on
On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 13:38:32 -0400, "Jon" <jon8338(a)peoplepc.com>
wrote:

>http://jons-math.bravehost.com/transfer.html
>
>Look at the circuit again. When the generator feeds back into the grid, it
>disconnects and latches the generator OFF. The circuit works. Everybody
>build one.
>
Let me try to say this in the simplest and clearest way possible. If
it can backfeed to the utility under any possible circumstances, let
alone is known to do so, it is dangerous and illegal for the purpose
intended.
Moreover, if it is known to backfeed the utility line under some known
circumstance, is constitutes a murderous device; guaranteeing that you
go to jail if anyone gets hurt because you connected it to the grid.
And bye bye house and land as well.

I hope that this is clear enough.
From: krw on
On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 22:08:37 -0700, "JosephKK"<quiettechblue(a)yahoo.com> wrote:

>On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 13:38:32 -0400, "Jon" <jon8338(a)peoplepc.com>
>wrote:
>
>>http://jons-math.bravehost.com/transfer.html
>>
>>Look at the circuit again. When the generator feeds back into the grid, it
>>disconnects and latches the generator OFF. The circuit works. Everybody
>>build one.
>>
>Let me try to say this in the simplest and clearest way possible. If
>it can backfeed to the utility under any possible circumstances, let
>alone is known to do so, it is dangerous and illegal for the purpose
>intended.
>Moreover, if it is known to backfeed the utility line under some known
>circumstance, is constitutes a murderous device; guaranteeing that you
>go to jail if anyone gets hurt because you connected it to the grid.
>And bye bye house and land as well.
>
>I hope that this is clear enough.

Don't feed the troll.
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