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From: Chuck on 29 May 2010 10:30 On 5/26/2010 6:12 PM, Ken Blake, MVP wrote: > On Tue, 25 May 2010 19:30:02 -0700, Doum<me(a)domain.net> wrote: > > >>> You said this was a laptop. Laptops only have one hard drive. >> >> <snip> >> >> My laptop has two internal hard drives > > > I don't want to say you're wrong for sure, since there may be some > that do have two hard drives, but I've never seen one with two drives. > > How do you know yours has two drives? It's much more likely that you > have one hard drive with two partitions on it. > > > HP Pavilion 9650us "multimedia" Vista laptops have two 250G hard drives. They were sold nation wide by Office Depot in the 2007-8 time frame. They are somewhat slow by today's standards, due to a less than optimum MBD design.
From: MN on 30 May 2010 18:35 Mark, What is the Link for Hitachi ? I have an Hitachi SATA drive. ====================================================================================== "Roy Smith" <rasmith1959(a)live.com> wrote in message news:OsUw0uG$KHA.4472(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > One comment that bears mentioning about these free backup programs from > Seagate/Maxtor and Western Digital... these programs have one stipulation > in that you are required to have a drive from the respective manufacturer, > or the program won't run. The program is basically Acronis True Image > Home with several of the retail features removed such as incremental > backups, scheduling, and the ability to mount a backup archive as a drive > to name a few. The programs are available at: > > Maxtor: > http://www.seagate.com/ww/v/index.jsp?locale=en-US&name=MaxBlast_5&vgnextoid=7add8b9c4a8ff010VgnVCM100000dd04090aRCRD > Seagate: > http://www.seagate.com/ww/v/index.jsp?locale=en-US&name=DiscWizard&vgnextoid=d9fd4a3cdde5c010VgnVCM100000dd04090aRCRD > Western Digital: > http://support.wdc.com/product/downloaddetail.asp?swid=119&wdc_lang=en > > (The Maxtor and Seagate lines may be word-wrapped) > > > "Mark Adams" <MarkAdams(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:6848B6CE-6428-4307-B780-3F8508662E12(a)microsoft.com... >> >> >> "bk3000" wrote: >> >>> Mark, Alias, et al - >>> >>> Really appreciate the feedback. I like the idea of having an >>> at-the-ready >>> backup with an external hd, but it appears I could simply use the >>> Acronis-powered free download/trial version utility from WD or Seagate >>> to >>> image the current hd and restore it to the new drive upon its' arrival. >>> I'll >>> definitely take a peek at the current going rate for external hds, also >>> Acronis itself if I can't access the free version. I'm really not even >>> going >>> to inquire further about cloning, which seems to be a more intensive >>> alternative/for different purposes than the imaging...? >>> >> >> >> If you do not buy the external hard drive, you will have to clone the old >> hard drive to the new one. You will have to buy a 2.5 inch USB hard drive >> enclosure to do this. Download the utility from the website of the maker >> of >> the new drive to your desktop machine and burn a bootable CD from the >> download file. Put the new hard drive in the USB enclosure and connect to >> the >> laptop. Boot the laptop to the CD you just made and clone the old drive >> to >> the new one. When done, remove the CD from the drive and shut the laptop >> down. Remove the old hard drive from the laptop and replace it with the >> new >> one, and you should be good to go. Keep the old drive for awhile until >> you >> are satisfied that all is well with the new installation. >> >> If you do buy the external drive, use the bootable disk to save an image >> of >> the old drive to the external drive. Then, put the new hard drive into >> the >> laptop and use the CD to restore the image to the new drive. You will now >> have a backup image safely stored on the external drive, and the laptop >> should be good to go. >> >> Acronis can do both of these functions and can also be installed to your >> machine and make incrimental backups to the USB drive while Windows is >> running. You can schedule those backups to be made at night while you are >> asleep. A very useful program. >> >> >>> My apologies about the mistaken identification of my separate PARTITION >>> of >>> the hd as a second drive - confusing it with my older desktop, though I >>> had >>> always thought they weren't part of the same hardware piece. Thanks for >>> catching it. >>> >>> - Brian >>> >>> "Mark Adams" wrote: >>> >>> > >>> > >>> > "bk3000" wrote: >>> > >>> > > Machine is still running, though theoretically it could irreparably >>> > > crash at >>> > > any second, I've been told. It seemed close yesterday, in fact. Was >>> > > considering spending the $ for a USB or external hard drive; I have >>> > > a few >>> > > flash drives but they won't be enough for the whole operation. >>> > > >>> > > How about my internal backup HD? >>> > >>> > >>> > You said this was a laptop. Laptops only have one hard drive. You >>> > certainly >>> > don't want to save anything to a separate partition of a hard drive >>> > that you >>> > already know is failing. >>> > >>> > >>> > >Would it be smart to backup anything >>> > > (documents, for instance) on there or even possible to use that as a >>> > > mirror/image location of some sort? >>> > > >>> > >>> > Backup images are saved as one large file. The flash drives would have >>> > to be >>> > big enough to hold the whole file, or it won't work. You could >>> > manually copy >>> > your documents, pictures, music, and export your email and browser >>> > bookmarks >>> > to the flash drives if you have enough of them (I doubt it.) Cheaper >>> > to get a >>> > USB hard drive. Alias says Seagate's utility will make an image; I >>> > assume it >>> > can restore one to a new hard drive also. If so, you won't need the >>> > Acronis. >>> > >>> > > Also curious about commenter Db at the bottom of the thread making >>> > > the point >>> > > about any bad sectors being recreated in any of these scenarios. >>> > > >>> > >>> > The bad sectors won't be recreated on the new drive, but any data on >>> > those >>> > sectors is probably lost and won't copy to the new drive. This could >>> > include >>> > critical operating system files and could crash or cause instability >>> > to the >>> > OS. >>> > >>> > > "Mark Adams" wrote: >>> > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > "Alias" wrote: >>> > > > >>> > > > > Mark Adams wrote: >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > "bk3000" wrote: >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > >> I've got a Dell laptop running XP, and after running a >>> > > > > >> diagnostic test, got >>> > > > > >> error code 0146 that hard drive was corrupted. Dell is >>> > > > > >> sending me a new one, >>> > > > > >> which I'll have to self-install. >>> > > > > >> >>> > > > > >> I can't remember backing up my entire system ever, so my >>> > > > > >> question is, how >>> > > > > >> should I go about saving all my settings and programs on the >>> > > > > >> current hard >>> > > > > >> drive? I've got a backup drive of 20gb, so I'm guessing I >>> > > > > >> should put it all >>> > > > > >> there, and also a few flash drives, but what method should I >>> > > > > >> use? Should I go >>> > > > > >> to the C:/ drive system properties and select the backup >>> > > > > >> option or do stuff >>> > > > > >> manually? >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > If the machine still runs, Go out and buy Acronis True Image >>> > > > > > and a 1 TB USB >>> > > > > > hard drive. Boot the machine to the Acronis disk and make an >>> > > > > > image of your >>> > > > > > computer to the USB drive. When the new drive arrives from >>> > > > > > Dell, restore that >>> > > > > > image to the new drive. It might cost a little more to do it >>> > > > > > this way, but it >>> > > > > > is so much easier than reinstalling everything, it's worth it. >>> > > > > >>> > > > > You can also do the same thing for free with the CD you can >>> > > > > download >>> > > > > from Seagate, Western Digital, etc. >>> > > > > >>> > > > > -- >>> > > > > Alias >>> > > > > . >>> > > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > Alias, Bob. >>> > > > >>> > > > It's been awhile since I've used these utilities. Since I've >>> > > > gotten Acronis >>> > > > I've not had to use them. I know they can clone drives, but can >>> > > > they make an >>> > > > image? The OP has a laptop and since two hard drives cannot be >>> > > > installed at >>> > > > the same time, a USB enclosure would be needed to clone to the new >>> > > > drive. >>> > > > This would also eliminate the necessity of purchasing the external >>> > > > hard >>> > > > drive. But, by buying Acronis and the USB drive, the OP could >>> > > > replace the >>> > > > failing drive and also have a reliable backup system. Costs more, >>> > > > but now he >>> > > > can backup everything all in one shot. > > >
From: Doum on 30 May 2010 21:59 "MN" <MN(a)Private.net> �crivait news:eYEQqjEALHA.980(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl: Here's the download link for various hard drive utilities for Hitachi HDs. http://www.hitachigst.com/support/downloads/ They don't offer the free stripped down version of Acronis True Image like Seagate and Western Digital do. You could buy the full featured version from http://www.acronis.com/ ,or many hi-tech or office stores (online or not). Hitachi don't seem to offer cloning software either but do a Google search with "free cloning software" and you will get many results. HTH > Mark, > What is the Link for Hitachi ? I have an Hitachi SATA drive. > >======================================================================== >============== > "Roy Smith" <rasmith1959(a)live.com> wrote in message > news:OsUw0uG$KHA.4472(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >> One comment that bears mentioning about these free backup programs >> from Seagate/Maxtor and Western Digital... these programs have one >> stipulation in that you are required to have a drive from the >> respective manufacturer, or the program won't run. The program is >> basically Acronis True Image Home with several of the retail features >> removed such as incremental backups, scheduling, and the ability to >> mount a backup archive as a drive to name a few. The programs are >> available at: >> >> Maxtor: >> http://www.seagate.com/ww/v/index.jsp?locale=en-US&name=MaxBlast_5&vgn >> extoid=7add8b9c4a8ff010VgnVCM100000dd04090aRCRD Seagate: >> http://www.seagate.com/ww/v/index.jsp?locale=en-US&name=DiscWizard&vgn >> extoid=d9fd4a3cdde5c010VgnVCM100000dd04090aRCRD Western Digital: >> http://support.wdc.com/product/downloaddetail.asp?swid=119&wdc_lang=en >> >> (The Maxtor and Seagate lines may be word-wrapped) >> >> <snip>
From: Jim P on 31 May 2010 00:34 Ken Blake, MVP wrote: > > On Wed, 26 May 2010 16:00:10 -0700, Doum<me(a)domain.net> wrote: > >> "Ken Blake, MVP"<kblake(a)this.is.an.invalid.domain> ?crivait >> news:027rv5luruup6rlhrol4lptvbtmd9r6l0k(a)4ax.com: >> >>> On Tue, 25 May 2010 19:30:02 -0700, Doum<me(a)domain.net> wrote: >>> >>> >>>>> You said this was a laptop. Laptops only have one hard drive. >>>> >>>> <snip> >>>> >>>> My laptop has two internal hard drives >>> >>> >>> I don't want to say you're wrong for sure, since there may be some >>> that do have two hard drives, but I've never seen one with two drives. >>> >>> How do you know yours has two drives? It's much more likely that you >>> have one hard drive with two partitions on it. >>> >>> >>> >> >> I know it has two physical drives because I've installed the second one >> myself. > > > > OK, then I withdraw the implication of what I said. But it is very > unusual. > > > I have a Toshiba Satellite A135 with two hard drives, from the factory.
From: Eddie on 4 Jun 2010 00:20
Big_Al wrote: > Bob said this on 5/25/2010 11:25 AM: >> WD offers a free copy of Acronis if you own one of their drives. >> http://support.wdc.com/product/downloaddetail.asp?swid=119&type=download&wdc_lang=en >> >> >> >> "Mark Adams" <MarkAdams(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> news:FB3A0D66-8006-4018-B87E-CD66EFDDDAA0(a)microsoft.com... >>> >>> >>> "bk3000" wrote: >>> >>>> I've got a Dell laptop running XP, and after running a diagnostic >>>> test, got >>>> error code 0146 that hard drive was corrupted. Dell is sending me a >>>> new one, >>>> which I'll have to self-install. >>>> >>>> I can't remember backing up my entire system ever, so my question is, >>>> how >>>> should I go about saving all my settings and programs on the current >>>> hard >>>> drive? I've got a backup drive of 20gb, so I'm guessing I should put >>>> it all >>>> there, and also a few flash drives, but what method should I use? >>>> Should I go >>>> to the C:/ drive system properties and select the backup option or do >>>> stuff >>>> manually? >>> >>> If the machine still runs, Go out and buy Acronis True Image and a 1 >>> TB USB >>> hard drive. Boot the machine to the Acronis disk and make an image of >>> your >>> computer to the USB drive. When the new drive arrives from Dell, >>> restore that >>> image to the new drive. It might cost a little more to do it this way, >>> but it >>> is so much easier than reinstalling everything, it's worth it. >> > > IIRC Acronis offers a free trial too for 15 days. You can use that > and if you like it buy it later. > I own Acronis now and use it regularly to make images on a 1TB usb and > feel good that I've got all my work backed up and can reset my machine > at any time in 20 minutes or so. > Acronis is still freely available on the net; you just gotta look. Ed. |