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From: Richard Herring on 20 Feb 2007 06:42 In message <6dsBh.2866$Jl.1858(a)newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net>, r.e.s. <r.s(a)ZZmindspring.com> writes >"Arthur J. O'Dwyer" <ajonospam(a)andrew.cmu.edu> wrote ... >> >> On Sat, 17 Feb 2007, r.e.s. wrote: >>> "r.e.s." <r.s(a)ZZmindspring.com> wrote ... >>>> The above question about a possibly-garbled hint concerns the >>>> fact that the cipher you and I are both describing, decrypts >>>> the given plaintext to >>> ^^^^^^^^^ >>> oops, ciphertext >>> >>>> hesaidtheCookwasagoodCookasCooksgoandasCooksgoshewent >>>> instead of the possibly more "meaningful" >>>> hesaidtheLookwasagoodLookasLooksgoandasLooksgoshewent. >> >> Try adding spaces and punctuation, and the "cook" version >> becomes the more meaningful: >> >> "He said the cook was a good cook, as cooks go; and as >> cooks go, she went." >> >> Changing "cook" to "look" throughout produces nonsense. > >I disagree. The alternative sentence ... > >"He said the look was a good look, as looks go; >and as looks go, she went." > >... is what a man might reply lightheartedly when asked about >his former lady-friend's looks. One doesn't refer to "looks" (in that sense) in the singular. > That would be a reference to >her good looks leaving her, just as she left him. > 10 seconds with Google would have revealed that the "cook" version is a well-known quotation from the works of "Saki" (H. H. Munro). -- Richard Herring
From: Unruh on 20 Feb 2007 19:06 Richard Herring <junk@[127.0.0.1]> writes: >In message <6dsBh.2866$Jl.1858(a)newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net>, r.e.s. ><r.s(a)ZZmindspring.com> writes >>"Arthur J. O'Dwyer" <ajonospam(a)andrew.cmu.edu> wrote ... >>> >>> On Sat, 17 Feb 2007, r.e.s. wrote: >>>> "r.e.s." <r.s(a)ZZmindspring.com> wrote ... >>>>> The above question about a possibly-garbled hint concerns the >>>>> fact that the cipher you and I are both describing, decrypts >>>>> the given plaintext to >>>> ^^^^^^^^^ >>>> oops, ciphertext >>>> >>>>> hesaidtheCookwasagoodCookasCooksgoandasCooksgoshewent >>>>> instead of the possibly more "meaningful" >>>>> hesaidtheLookwasagoodLookasLooksgoandasLooksgoshewent. >>> >>> Try adding spaces and punctuation, and the "cook" version >>> becomes the more meaningful: >>> >>> "He said the cook was a good cook, as cooks go; and as >>> cooks go, she went." >>> >>> Changing "cook" to "look" throughout produces nonsense. >> >>I disagree. The alternative sentence ... >> >>"He said the look was a good look, as looks go; >>and as looks go, she went." >> >>... is what a man might reply lightheartedly when asked about >>his former lady-friend's looks. >One doesn't refer to "looks" (in that sense) in the singular. Sure one does. It might also refer to report by a peeping tom. >> That would be a reference to >>her good looks leaving her, just as she left him. No. >> >10 seconds with Google would have revealed that the "cook" version is a >well-known quotation from the works of "Saki" (H. H. Munro).
From: r.e.s. on 20 Feb 2007 19:51 "Unruh" <unruh-spam(a)physics.ubc.ca> wrote ... > Richard Herring <junk@[127.0.0.1]> writes: >> r.e.s. <r.s(a)ZZmindspring.com> writes ... >>>"Arthur J. O'Dwyer" <ajonospam(a)andrew.cmu.edu> wrote ... >>>> "He said the cook was a good cook, as cooks go; and as >>>> cooks go, she went." >>>> >>>> Changing "cook" to "look" throughout produces nonsense. >>> >>>I disagree. The alternative sentence ... >>> >>>"He said the look was a good look, as looks go; >>>and as looks go, she went." >>> >>>... is what a man might reply lightheartedly when asked about >>>his former lady-friend's looks. > >>One doesn't refer to "looks" (in that sense) in the singular. > > Sure one does. It might also refer to report by a peeping tom. > > >>> That would be a reference to >>>her good looks leaving her, just as she left him. > > No. Yes, *possibly*. >>10 seconds with Google would have revealed that the "cook" version is a >>well-known quotation from the works of "Saki" (H. H. Munro). I didn't need 10 seconds with Google -- the "cook" version is the solution *I* posted. The rest of this thread has been about the fact that the "look" solution is also *possible*.
From: r.e.s. on 20 Feb 2007 20:16 "r.e.s." <r.s(a)ZZmindspring.com> wrote ... > I didn't need 10 seconds with Google -- the "cook" version is > the solution *I* posted. The rest of this thread has been > about the fact that the "look" solution is also *possible*. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ oops, I intended: the "look" *sentence* is also *meaningful* I never proposed the "look" version as a solution, but was discussing it as a meaningful sentence -- to me it has connotations that make it even more "meaningful".
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