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From: Adrian Tarjoianu on 10 Jun 2010 15:14 Hi Steven, Do you have any update for me? Thank you, Adrian "Adrian Tarjoianu" wrote: > Hi Steven, > > At the moment I am interested only in the IIS hosting approach. We are not > interested in self hosting yet. > Also, I didn't use any network tracing tool. netTcpBinding is 70% slower > than asmx > > If I use netTcpBinding aren't the DataSets binary serialized by default? If > no then how could I configure them with binary serializer? > > Thank you, > Adrian > > ""Steven Cheng"" <stcheng(a)online.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:YxylwhTALHA.5808(a)TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl... > > Hi Adrian, > > > > So even if you set the DataSet to use binary serialization format the > > speed > > is still not quite good? Have you tried different hosting approaches such > > as using self-hosting (in a console application) or move to a different > > server to see whether there is any difference? > > > > Generally speaking, since WCF netTcpBinding naturally use binary encoding > > and DataSet (can be set to use binary serializer), the problem should not > > be no worse than the asmx webservice which use text based encoding on > > DataSet. Have you tried using some network tracing tools like netmon or > > tcp trace to capture the data transferred at the transport layer to get > > the > > actual binary data size sent over wire? > > > > Sincerely, > > > > Steven Cheng > > > > Microsoft MSDN Online Support Lead > > > > > > Delighting our customers is our #1 priority. We welcome your comments and > > suggestions about how we can improve the support we provide to you. Please > > feel free to let my manager know what you think of the level of service > > provided. You can send feedback directly to my manager at: > > msdnmg(a)microsoft.com. > > > > > > -------------------- > >>From: "Adrian Tarjoianu" <adrian(a)usoffice.fareportal.com> > > <ergtd7y#KHA.2348(a)TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl> > >>In-Reply-To: <ergtd7y#KHA.2348(a)TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl> > >>Subject: Re: hosting WCF service - netTcp binding - Server Application > > Unavaila > >>Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 13:44:29 -0400 > > > >> > >>Hi Steven, > >> > >>As per this thread, there are not any solution for transfering big > >>DataSets/DataTables via WCF. > >>Excluding the schema is not a solution. Also, because I use NetTcpBinding > >>protocol I cannot change the serialiazer type. > >> > >>Do you have any other solutions? > >> > >>Thank you, > >>Adrian > >> > >>""Steven Cheng"" <stcheng(a)online.microsoft.com> wrote in message > >>news:ergtd7y%23KHA.2348(a)TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl... > >>> Hi Adrian, > >>> > >>> As for DataSet, it seems .NET 3.5 add binary serialization for it so as > > to > >>> improve serialization performance since for text message encoding cases, > >>> large dataset will be converted from binary byte to text format which > > will > >>> increase the data size. Also, when using binary format serialization, > >>> you > >>> also need to change the message encoding type from text to binary or > >>> Mtom > >>> of your binding. Here is a former thread mentioned transfering large > >>> dataset in WCF: > >>> > >>> #Passing 3MB DataSet via WCF - Best Practice > >>> > > http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/wcf/thread/088d0c74-6568-4496- > >>> 8bfa-4ccf3a1ea851 > >>> > >>> Since > > >
From: "Steven Cheng" on 11 Jun 2010 05:13 Hi Adian, To let DataSet object use binary serialization(when being sent over distributed service), we can explicitly set its "RemotingFormat" to "SerialziationFormat.Binary" e.g. DataSet ds = new DataSet(); //adding data to ds... ds.RemotingFormat = SerializationFormat.Binary; Sincerely, Steven Cheng Microsoft MSDN Online Support Lead Delighting our customers is our #1 priority. We welcome your comments and suggestions about how we can improve the support we provide to you. Please feel free to let my manager know what you think of the level of service provided. You can send feedback directly to my manager at: msdnmg(a)microsoft.com. -------------------- >X-WBNR-Posting-Host: 216.214.130.125 >From: =?Utf-8?B?QWRyaWFuIFRhcmpvaWFudQ==?= <tarjoadi(a)nospam.nospam> >References: <JrNONZq6KHA.2348(a)TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl> <OUbr#Nd8KHA.3176(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl> <llU7aVo8KHA.6008 > >Hi Steven, > >Do you have any update for me? > >Thank you, >Adrian > >"Adrian Tarjoianu" wrote: > >> Hi Steven, >> >> At the moment I am interested only in the IIS hosting approach. We are not >> interested in self hosting yet. >> Also, I didn't use any network tracing tool. netTcpBinding is 70% slower >> than asmx >> >> If I use netTcpBinding aren't the DataSets binary serialized by default? If >> no then how could I configure them with binary serializer? >> >> Thank you, >> Adrian >> >> ""Steven Cheng"" <stcheng(a)online.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> news:YxylwhTALHA.5808(a)TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl... >> > Hi Adrian, >> > >> > So even if you set the DataSet to use binary serialization format the >> > speed >> > is still not quite good? Have you tried different hosting approaches such >> > as using self-hosting (in a console application) or move to a different >> > server to see whether there is any difference? >> > >> > Generally speaking, since WCF netTcpBinding naturally use binary encoding >> > and DataSet (can be set to use binary serializer), the problem should not >> > be no worse than the asmx webservice which use text based encoding on >> > DataSet. Have you tried using some network tracing tools like netmon or >> > tcp trace to capture the data transferred at the transport layer to get >> > the >> > actual binary data size sent over wire? >> > >> > Sincerely, >> > >> > Steven Cheng >> > >> > Microsoft MSDN Online Support Lead >> > >> > >> > Delighting our customers is our #1 priority. We welcome your comments and >> > suggestions about how we can improve the support we provide to you. Please >> > feel free to let my manager know what you think of the level of service >> > provided. You can send feedback directly to my manager at: >> > msdnmg(a)microsoft.com. >> > >> > >> > -------------------- >> >>From: "Adrian Tarjoianu" <adrian(a)usoffice.fareportal.com> >> > <ergtd7y#KHA.2348(a)TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl> >> >>In-Reply-To: <ergtd7y#KHA.2348(a)TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl> >> >>Subject: Re: hosting WCF service - netTcp binding - Server Application >> > Unavaila >> >>Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 13:44:29 -0400 >> > >> >> >> >>Hi Steven, >> >> >> >>As per this thread, there are not any solution for transfering big >> >>DataSets/DataTables via WCF. >> >>Excluding the schema is not a solution. Also, because I use NetTcpBinding >> >>protocol I cannot change the serialiazer type. >> >> >> >>Do you have any other solutions? >> >> >> >>Thank you, >> >>Adrian >> >> >> >>""Steven Cheng"" <stcheng(a)online.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> >>news:ergtd7y%23KHA.2348(a)TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl... >> >>> Hi Adrian, >> >>> >> >>> As for DataSet, it seems .NET 3.5 add binary serialization for it so as >> > to >> >>> improve serialization performance since for text message encoding cases, >> >>> large dataset will be converted from binary byte to text format which >> > will >> >>> increase the data size. Also, when using binary format serialization, >> >>> you >> >>> also need to change the message encoding type from text to binary or >> >>> Mtom >> >>> of your binding. Here is a former thread mentioned transfering large >> >>> dataset in WCF: >> >>> >> >>> #Passing 3MB DataSet via WCF - Best Practice >> >>> >> > http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/wcf/thread/088d0c74-6568-4496- >> >>> 8bfa-4ccf3a1ea851 >> >>> >> >>> Since >> > >> >
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