how do you pronounce 'tuple'?
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From: John Salerno on 12 Feb 2006 22:51 Yes, silly question, but it keeps me up at night. :) I know it comes from the suffix -tuple, which makes me think it's pronounced as 'toople', but I've seen (at m-w.com) that the first pronunciation option is 'tuhple', so I wasn't sure. Maybe it's both, but which is most prevalent? Thanks! Now time to go back to reading the chapter on tuples...
From: Steve Holden on 12 Feb 2006 23:30 John Salerno wrote: > Yes, silly question, but it keeps me up at night. :) > Silly you! > I know it comes from the suffix -tuple, which makes me think it's > pronounced as 'toople', but I've seen (at m-w.com) that the first > pronunciation option is 'tuhple', so I wasn't sure. Maybe it's both, but > which is most prevalent? > No suffix involved, tuples have a respectable mathematical history going back centuries. > Thanks! Now time to go back to reading the chapter on tuples... "Tyoople", "toople" or "tupple" depending on who you are, where you grew up and who you are speaking to. As with so many Usenet questions, there's no right answer, only 314 wrong ones :-) I teach on both sides of the Atlantic, and have learned to draw a mental breath before trying to pronounce the word "router". Americans find the British pronunciation ("rooter") hilarious, despite the fact they tell me I drive on "Root 66" to get to DC. The Brits are politer, and only snigger behind my back when I pronounce it as Americans do, to rhyme with "outer". except-that-there's-no-"t"-in-American-ly y'rs - steve -- Steve Holden +44 150 684 7255 +1 800 494 3119 Holden Web LLC www.holdenweb.com PyCon TX 2006 www.python.org/pycon/
From: Grant Edwards on 12 Feb 2006 23:34 On 2006-02-13, John Salerno <johnjsal(a)NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote: > I know it comes from the suffix -tuple, which makes me think > it's pronounced as 'toople', but I've seen (at m-w.com) that > the first pronunciation option is 'tuhple', so I wasn't sure. > Maybe it's both, but which is most prevalent? In my expereince, the latter. I don't think I've ever heard the other pronounciation. -- Grant Edwards grante Yow! Isn't this my STOP?! at visi.com
From: Markus Wankus on 12 Feb 2006 23:54 John Salerno wrote: > Yes, silly question, but it keeps me up at night. :) > > I know it comes from the suffix -tuple, which makes me think it's > pronounced as 'toople', but I've seen (at m-w.com) that the first > pronunciation option is 'tuhple', so I wasn't sure. Maybe it's both, but > which is most prevalent? > > Thanks! Now time to go back to reading the chapter on tuples... I'm not sure, but I think it is pronounced "m?nage ? trois". M. ;-)
From: Erik Max Francis on 13 Feb 2006 01:52
John Salerno wrote: > Yes, silly question, but it keeps me up at night. :) > > I know it comes from the suffix -tuple, which makes me think it's > pronounced as 'toople', but I've seen (at m-w.com) that the first > pronunciation option is 'tuhple', so I wasn't sure. Maybe it's both, but > which is most prevalent? > > Thanks! Now time to go back to reading the chapter on tuples... I believe both is right. Those who come from a pure mathematics background are more likely to pronounce it _toople_. Those who have encountered it in the wild are more likely to pronounce it _tuhple_. I had enough of an understanding of mathematics to recognize where it came from when I encountered it in Python, but I pronounce it the latter way. Even in mathematics, a tuple, or formally an n-tuple, makes more sense to me pronounced the latter if you list out the various pronounciations for large n, seems me the _uhs_ outweigh the _oos_. (There's quadruple on one side, but then quintuple, sextuple, septuple, heptuple, octuple, etc., etc., etc.) -- Erik Max Francis && max(a)alcyone.com && http://www.alcyone.com/max/ San Jose, CA, USA && 37 20 N 121 53 W && AIM erikmaxfrancis We are victims of our circumstance. -- Sade Adu |