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From: Gregory Weston on 4 Dec 2007 14:22
In article
<0d0adf12-dc89-4b05-9d4c-5446bc2fda51(a)v4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
wightstraker <johnaolmsted(a)gmail.com> wrote:

> On Dec 4, 11:41 am, Tom Harrington <t...(a)pcisys.no.spam.dammit.net>
> wrote:
> > In article
> > <ae222a27-7a4f-46ea-a682-e8aaf54b7...(a)v4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
> >
> > wightstraker <johnaolms...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > > I run a linux box as well as a few Macs and I was wondering if there
> > > was anything similar to htop (http://htop.sourceforge.net/) available
> > > for the OS X terminal? I ssh my macs frequently and it would be nice
> > > to have a terminal-based system monitor as useful htop - regular old
> > > top isn't really cutting it.
> >
> > Maybe you could describe what it is about htop that you like, instead of
> > expecting people to spend time studying a web site in order to answer
> > your question. If you want an answer, the burden's on you to ask a
> > meaningful question.
>
> Thanks for the heads up, your condescension really helped make your
> points clearer.

It wasn't condescension. It was a request for information that would be
helpful in meaningfully answering your question. If we don't know what
differences between top and htop you care about, we can't really provide
a good alternative. You may not have noticed, but the sourceforge site
for htop is godawful slow. I gave up trying to figure out what made htop
desirable in general, let alone for you specifically.

> htop is similar to top except you can scroll through the tasks list
> using the arrow keys. Common commands (such as kill) can be issued
> within htop using the function keys. I prefer it to top because I can
> manage my tasks without switching back and forth from the monitor to
> the shell, or memorizing any PIDs.

Don't know of any way to scroll, but you can reorder which might help
alleviate things. You can also send any signal you like to any process
using the stock OS X top.
From: wightstraker on 4 Dec 2007 14:29
On Dec 4, 2:22 pm, Gregory Weston <u...(a)splook.com> wrote:
> In article
> <0d0adf12-dc89-4b05-9d4c-5446bc2fd...(a)v4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
>
>
>
> wightstraker <johnaolms...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Dec 4, 11:41 am, Tom Harrington <t...(a)pcisys.no.spam.dammit.net>
> > wrote:
> > > In article
> > > <ae222a27-7a4f-46ea-a682-e8aaf54b7...(a)v4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
>
> > > wightstraker <johnaolms...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > I run a linux box as well as a few Macs and I was wondering if there
> > > > was anything similar to htop (http://htop.sourceforge.net/) available
> > > > for the OS X terminal? I ssh my macs frequently and it would be nice
> > > > to have a terminal-based system monitor as useful htop - regular old
> > > > top isn't really cutting it.
>
> > > Maybe you could describe what it is about htop that you like, instead of
> > > expecting people to spend time studying a web site in order to answer
> > > your question. If you want an answer, the burden's on you to ask a
> > > meaningful question.
>
> > Thanks for the heads up, your condescension really helped make your
> > points clearer.
>
> It wasn't condescension. It was a request for information that would be
> helpful in meaningfully answering your question. If we don't know what
> differences between top and htop you care about, we can't really provide
> a good alternative. You may not have noticed, but the sourceforge site
> for htop is godawful slow. I gave up trying to figure out what made htop
> desirable in general, let alone for you specifically.
>
> > htop is similar to top except you can scroll through the tasks list
> > using the arrow keys. Common commands (such as kill) can be issued
> > within htop using the function keys. I prefer it to top because I can
> > manage my tasks without switching back and forth from the monitor to
> > the shell, or memorizing any PIDs.
>
> Don't know of any way to scroll, but you can reorder which might help
> alleviate things. You can also send any signal you like to any process
> using the stock OS X top.

> It wasn't condescension.

I don't mind what Tom said, just how he said it. No point arguing over
semantics though.

>You can also send any signal you like to any process
> using the stock OS X top.

How do you do that? Issuing kill within top would be a helpful
example. Thanks for your post.
From: Tom Stiller on 4 Dec 2007 14:43
In article
<3c603b70-eeef-405a-b0c0-99be182df999(a)s8g2000prg.googlegroups.com>,
wightstraker <johnaolmsted(a)gmail.com> wrote:

> On Dec 4, 1:24 pm, Tom Stiller <tomstil...(a)comcast.net> wrote:
> > In article
> > <0d0adf12-dc89-4b05-9d4c-5446bc2fd...(a)v4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
> >
> >
> >
> > wightstraker <johnaolms...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Dec 4, 11:41 am, Tom Harrington <t...(a)pcisys.no.spam.dammit.net>
> > > wrote:
> > > > In article
> > > > <ae222a27-7a4f-46ea-a682-e8aaf54b7...(a)v4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
> >
> > > > wightstraker <johnaolms...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > I run a linux box as well as a few Macs and I was wondering if there
> > > > > was anything similar to htop (http://htop.sourceforge.net/) available
> > > > > for the OS X terminal? I ssh my macs frequently and it would be nice
> > > > > to have a terminal-based system monitor as useful htop - regular old
> > > > > top isn't really cutting it.
> >
> > > > Maybe you could describe what it is about htop that you like, instead of
> > > > expecting people to spend time studying a web site in order to answer
> > > > your question. If you want an answer, the burden's on you to ask a
> > > > meaningful question.
> >
> > > Thanks for the heads up, your condescension really helped make your
> > > points clearer.
> >
> > > htop is similar to top except you can scroll through the tasks list
> > > using the arrow keys. Common commands (such as kill) can be issued
> > > within htop using the function keys. I prefer it to top because I can
> > > manage my tasks without switching back and forth from the monitor to
> > > the shell, or memorizing any PIDs.
> >
> > > I've had no luck finding anything similar for OS X, so any help would
> > > be welcome.
> >
> > Doesn't Activity Monitor (/Application/Utilities) do what you want?
> >
> Yes, but I can't use Activity Monitor when I'm using ssh to access my
> mac remotely, then I have to work within the terminal. Correct me if
> I'm mistaken. Thanks for your post -

I don't know what your workflow is, but I use VNC (tunneled through SSH)
to communicate with my remote hosts. In that environment, I can launch
any Mac Application.

--
Tom Stiller

PGP fingerprint = 5108 DDB2 9761 EDE5 E7E3 7BDA 71ED 6496 99C0 C7CF
From: Barry Margolin on 4 Dec 2007 14:47
In article
<5eb9a5cb-7fa2-432f-9829-1ec4c7985f08(a)d61g2000hsa.googlegroups.com>,
wightstraker <johnaolmsted(a)gmail.com> wrote:

> On Dec 4, 2:22 pm, Gregory Weston <u...(a)splook.com> wrote:
> > In article
> > <0d0adf12-dc89-4b05-9d4c-5446bc2fd...(a)v4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
> >You can also send any signal you like to any process
> > using the stock OS X top.
>
> How do you do that? Issuing kill within top would be a helpful
> example. Thanks for your post.

S<signal><space><pid>

Another option is to use VNC to bring up a remote GUI, and then use
Activity Monitor.

--
Barry Margolin, barmar(a)alum.mit.edu
Arlington, MA
*** PLEASE post questions in newsgroups, not directly to me ***
*** PLEASE don't copy me on replies, I'll read them in the group ***
From: wightstraker on 4 Dec 2007 14:49
On Dec 4, 2:43 pm, Tom Stiller <tomstil...(a)comcast.net> wrote:
> In article
> <3c603b70-eeef-405a-b0c0-99be182df...(a)s8g2000prg.googlegroups.com>,
>
>
>
> wightstraker <johnaolms...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Dec 4, 1:24 pm, Tom Stiller <tomstil...(a)comcast.net> wrote:
> > > In article
> > > <0d0adf12-dc89-4b05-9d4c-5446bc2fd...(a)v4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
>
> > > wightstraker <johnaolms...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > On Dec 4, 11:41 am, Tom Harrington <t...(a)pcisys.no.spam.dammit.net>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > In article
> > > > > <ae222a27-7a4f-46ea-a682-e8aaf54b7...(a)v4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
>
> > > > > wightstraker <johnaolms...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > I run a linux box as well as a few Macs and I was wondering if there
> > > > > > was anything similar to htop (http://htop.sourceforge.net/) available
> > > > > > for the OS X terminal? I ssh my macs frequently and it would be nice
> > > > > > to have a terminal-based system monitor as useful htop - regular old
> > > > > > top isn't really cutting it.
>
> > > > > Maybe you could describe what it is about htop that you like, instead of
> > > > > expecting people to spend time studying a web site in order to answer
> > > > > your question. If you want an answer, the burden's on you to ask a
> > > > > meaningful question.
>
> > > > Thanks for the heads up, your condescension really helped make your
> > > > points clearer.
>
> > > > htop is similar to top except you can scroll through the tasks list
> > > > using the arrow keys. Common commands (such as kill) can be issued
> > > > within htop using the function keys. I prefer it to top because I can
> > > > manage my tasks without switching back and forth from the monitor to
> > > > the shell, or memorizing any PIDs.
>
> > > > I've had no luck finding anything similar for OS X, so any help would
> > > > be welcome.
>
> > > Doesn't Activity Monitor (/Application/Utilities) do what you want?
>
> > Yes, but I can't use Activity Monitor when I'm using ssh to access my
> > mac remotely, then I have to work within the terminal. Correct me if
> > I'm mistaken. Thanks for your post -
>
> I don't know what your workflow is, but I use VNC (tunneled through SSH)
> to communicate with my remote hosts. In that environment, I can launch
> any Mac Application.
>
> --
> Tom Stiller
>
> PGP fingerprint = 5108 DDB2 9761 EDE5 E7E3 7BDA 71ED 6496 99C0 C7CF

Is the free version of VNC useful? Do I need X11 to run it?
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