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From: Joey Hess on 29 Jun 2010 12:40
sasha mal wrote:
> The bug exists, the iceweasel package maintainer is lazy and refuses to handle it.

No, iceweael's maintainer has applied basic debugging logic and
deduced that the problem is somewhere in your network connection.

You have, in turn, repeatedly called him "lazy"[1] and refused to provide
the wireshark traces he asked for, which would allow further debugging
*your* network problem. Surely it shouln't take more than an hour or so
for an intelligent, non-lazy being such as yourself to figure out how to
install and use wireshark?

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[1] Presumably because he has not hopped on a plane to Spain and
visited your house to see the problem with your network for himself.
From: Lisi on 29 Jun 2010 12:50
On Tuesday 29 June 2010 17:30:42 Joey Hess wrote:
> sasha mal wrote:
> > The bug exists, the iceweasel package maintainer is lazy and refuses to
> > handle it.
>
> No, iceweael's maintainer has applied basic debugging logic and
> deduced that the problem is somewhere in your network connection.
>
> You have, in turn, repeatedly called him "lazy"[1] and refused to provide
> the wireshark traces he asked for, which would allow further debugging
> *your* network problem. Surely it shouln't take more than an hour or so
> for an intelligent, non-lazy being such as yourself to figure out how to
> install and use wireshark?

The fact that the rest of us have no problem surely lends credence to the idea
that the problem is local to the OP. And abuse is not the best way to get
people to help! (The OP, not Joey.)

Lisi


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From: Arthur Machlas on 29 Jun 2010 13:20
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 11:46 AM, Lisi <lisi.reisz(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tuesday 29 June 2010 17:30:42 Joey Hess wrote:
>> sasha mal wrote:
>> > The bug exists, the iceweasel package maintainer is lazy and refuses to
>> > handle it.
>>
>> No, iceweael's maintainer has applied basic debugging logic and
>> deduced that the problem is somewhere in your network connection.
>>
>> You have, in turn, repeatedly called him "lazy"[1] and refused to provide
>> the wireshark traces he asked for, which would allow further debugging
>> *your* network problem. Surely it shouln't take more than an hour or so
>> for an intelligent, non-lazy being such as yourself to figure out how to
>> install and use wireshark?
>
> The fact that the rest of us have no problem surely lends credence to the idea
> that the problem is local to the OP.  And abuse is not the best way to get
> people to help! (The OP, not Joey.)
>
> Lisi

I took the time to read through the bug report, and am amazed at the
amount of patience and courtesy shown to OP. Another user chimed in
with the wireshark advice and actually found a problem and a workable
solution, that OP never bothered to try. Instead, just kept re-opening
bug and called maintainer lazy. Despite the insults, the harassment,
and constant re-opening, Bug Owner kept calm and polite. Kudos to him.


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From: Lisi on 29 Jun 2010 15:40
On Tuesday 29 June 2010 18:10:44 Arthur Machlas wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 11:46 AM, Lisi <lisi.reisz(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Tuesday 29 June 2010 17:30:42 Joey Hess wrote:
> >> sasha mal wrote:
> >> > The bug exists, the iceweasel package maintainer is lazy and refuses
> >> > to handle it.
> >>
> >> No, iceweael's maintainer has applied basic debugging logic and
> >> deduced that the problem is somewhere in your network connection.
> >>
> >> You have, in turn, repeatedly called him "lazy"[1] and refused to
> >> provide the wireshark traces he asked for, which would allow further
> >> debugging *your* network problem. Surely it shouln't take more than an
> >> hour or so for an intelligent, non-lazy being such as yourself to figure
> >> out how to install and use wireshark?
> >
> > The fact that the rest of us have no problem surely lends credence to the
> > idea that the problem is local to the OP.  And abuse is not the best way
> > to get people to help! (The OP, not Joey.)
> >
> > Lisi
>
> I took the time to read through the bug report, and am amazed at the
> amount of patience and courtesy shown to OP. Another user chimed in
> with the wireshark advice and actually found a problem and a workable
> solution, that OP never bothered to try. Instead, just kept re-opening
> bug and called maintainer lazy. Despite the insults, the harassment,
> and constant re-opening, Bug Owner kept calm and polite. Kudos to him.

I've just looked at the OP's email at the top of this thread and for the first
time noticed the c.c.'s. He seems to be insulting for the sake of insulting.
There can be no other point in the email, because it neither requests nor
offers help. :-\

Lisi


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From: Charlie on 29 Jun 2010 19:00
On Tue, 29 Jun 2010 12:10:44 -0500 Arthur Machlas
<arthur.machlas(a)gmail.com> shared this with us all:

>> The fact that the rest of us have no problem surely lends credence
>> to the idea that the problem is local to the OP.  And abuse is not
>> the best way to get people to help! (The OP, not Joey.)
>>
>> Lisi
>
>I took the time to read through the bug report, and am amazed at the
>amount of patience and courtesy shown to OP. Another user chimed in
>with the wireshark advice and actually found a problem and a workable
>solution, that OP never bothered to try. Instead, just kept re-opening
>bug and called maintainer lazy. Despite the insults, the harassment,
>and constant re-opening, Bug Owner kept calm and polite. Kudos to him.

A good reminder that we should thank Debian maintainers as well as all
Debian people, who are doing great work. Like many I appreciate it
hugely but forget to mention it far too often.

Thank you,
Charlie
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