From: John Hasler on 21 Mar 2010 09:20 Stephen Powell writes: > This is off topic, but why exactly did Debian have to rebrand Firefox > as iceweasel for their distribution? Mozilla owns the "FIREFOX" trademark and threatens to sue anyone who applies that label to patched versions. Debian backports security patches (Mozilla refuses to do so). -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster(a)lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87bpehn8d3.fsf(a)thumper.dhh.gt.org
From: Ron Johnson on 21 Mar 2010 10:20 On 2010-03-21 07:54, John Hasler wrote: > Stephen Powell writes: >> This is off topic, but why exactly did Debian have to rebrand Firefox >> as iceweasel for their distribution? > > Mozilla owns the "FIREFOX" trademark and threatens to sue anyone who > applies that label to patched versions. Debian backports security > patches (Mozilla refuses to do so). Isn't there also the issue of copyrighted icons? -- Obsession with "preserving cultural heritage" is a racist impediment to moral, physical and intellectual progress. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster(a)lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4BA628B0.7010804(a)cox.net
From: Angus Hedger on 21 Mar 2010 10:30 On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 2:09 PM, Ron Johnson <ron.l.johnson(a)cox.net> wrote: > On 2010-03-21 07:54, John Hasler wrote: >> >> Stephen Powell writes: >>> >>> This is off topic, but why exactly did Debian have to rebrand Firefox >>> as iceweasel for their distribution? >> >> Mozilla owns the "FIREFOX" trademark and threatens to sue anyone who >> applies that label to patched versions. Â Debian backports security >> patches (Mozilla refuses to do so). > > Isn't there also the issue of copyrighted icons? Hey, Wikipedia has a good write-up: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Corporation_software_rebranded_by_the_Debian_project Short version (if my memory serves me correctly) 1) You cant use the firefox name without using the whole "branding" (ie the copyrighted - and non free, icons), where as Mozilla had given Debian an exception to this rule, they decided to clamp down. 2)When it comes down to patching older versions Mozilla wanted the patches to go upstream for approval before they went out. (Again to make sure there "brand" was preserved) Regards, Angus. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster(a)lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/996de46c1003210725h76dc9412rf560a6c4ec1f7d9b(a)mail.gmail.com
From: Dotan Cohen on 21 Mar 2010 16:30 > 1) You cant use the firefox name without using the whole "branding" > (ie the copyrighted - and non free, icons), where as Mozilla had given > Debian an exception to this rule, they decided to clamp down. Debian had to clamp down because Mozilla had given _Debian_ permission. DFSG forbids accepting this as the exclusive permission is not redistributable, and therefore neither is the code. -- Dotan Cohen http://bido.com http://what-is-what.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster(a)lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/880dece01003211324l173ce859vff6f0971914ab4cc(a)mail.gmail.com
From: Alok G. Singh on 22 Mar 2010 01:00 Apparently it is no longer an issue[1]. Footnotes: [1] http://glandium.org/blog/?p=933 -- Alok The Phone Booth Rule: A lone dime always gets the number nearly right. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster(a)lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87ljdlarcx.fsf(a)klein.localdomain
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