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From: dagmargoodboat on 4 Aug 2010 13:42 On Aug 3, 6:20 pm, "k...(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz" <k...(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz> wrote: > On Tue, 3 Aug 2010 03:34:44 -0700 (PDT), dagmargoodb...(a)yahoo.com wrote: > >On Aug 2, 10:14 pm, "k...(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz" > ><k...(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz> wrote: > >> On Mon, 2 Aug 2010 20:02:42 -0700 (PDT), dagmargoodb...(a)yahoo.com wrote: > > >> >They're seizing people's property. They're seizing people's assets.. > >> >Last Thursday they came within 3 or 4 votes of effectively outlawing > >> >speech by their political opponents. > > >> >Elena Kagan thinks Congress can order you to eat three fruits and > >> >vegetables a day, constitutionally, under the Commerce clause. > > >> Commerce clause? That's so last century. > > >>http://www.breitbart.tv/congressman-at-town-hall-the-federal-governme.... > > >It's only recently that I understood--by careful study--how good (and > >timeless) a control system the Constitution was, the checks it keeps > >on the natures and ambitions of men, and how far we've drifted from > >it. > > We were taught such things in school. That was before "Heather has Two > Mommys" took the place of Civics. Well, for instance, I only just appreciated the value and importance of the Electoral College, and only because Massachusetts' end-run got me thinking. With it, the States keep each other in check. Without it, Boston dictates to North Dakota, and Boston wins every time. I saw this personally in Chile. Santiago (the capital city) receives all the taxes, yet rules a 3,000-mile country. Santiago takes care of itself--they get all the money. It's great, with roads, transport, skyscrapers--all the modern conveniences. Farther away? Nope. The farther you go, the worse it gets. <snip> > >All this talk about enemies and the need to intercept plots is > >Orwellian, of a different era, and a big mistake. Such paranoid > >drivel is what we once heard from despots behind the Iron Curtain-- > >always an emergency, always some outside threat to The People, always > >justifying some new intrusion against them, or excusing some failure > >of hope or change. I was there. > > >Bush threw the door open, and Mr. Obama's pouring through. > > >This is big stuff--we're not just being spent to China, we're losing > >our republic. > > If the 'R's don't take the House in November, it's gone. If they do, it > prolongs the agony some. This can be fixed. Example: Missouri voters overwhelmingly reject Obamacare-- http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/govt-and-politics/article_c847dc7c-564c-5c70-8d90-dfd25ae6de56.html We did this. More to come...stay tuned. -- Cheers, James Arthur
From: krw on 4 Aug 2010 19:10 On Wed, 4 Aug 2010 10:42:13 -0700 (PDT), dagmargoodboat(a)yahoo.com wrote: >On Aug 3, 6:20�pm, "k...(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz" <k...(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz> >wrote: >> On Tue, 3 Aug 2010 03:34:44 -0700 (PDT), dagmargoodb...(a)yahoo.com wrote: >> >On Aug 2, 10:14�pm, "k...(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz" >> ><k...(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz> wrote: >> >> On Mon, 2 Aug 2010 20:02:42 -0700 (PDT), dagmargoodb...(a)yahoo.com wrote: >> >> >> >They're seizing people's property. �They're seizing people's assets. >> >> >Last Thursday they came within 3 or 4 votes of effectively outlawing >> >> >speech by their political opponents. >> >> >> >Elena Kagan thinks Congress can order you to eat three fruits and >> >> >vegetables a day, constitutionally, under the Commerce clause. >> >> >> Commerce clause? �That's so last century. >> >> >>http://www.breitbart.tv/congressman-at-town-hall-the-federal-governme... >> >> >It's only recently that I understood--by careful study--how good (and >> >timeless) a control system the Constitution was, the checks it keeps >> >on the natures and ambitions of men, and how far we've drifted from >> >it. >> >> We were taught such things in school. �That was before "Heather has Two >> Mommys" took the place of Civics. > >Well, for instance, I only just appreciated the value and importance >of the Electoral College, and only because Massachusetts' end-run got >me thinking. We discussed all that, too. >With it, the States keep each other in check. Without it, Boston >dictates to North Dakota, and Boston wins every time. Yep. It's the United *States*. The 17th Amendment did huge damage to the Constitution and the country. >I saw this personally in Chile. Santiago (the capital city) receives >all the taxes, yet rules a 3,000-mile country. Santiago takes care of >itself--they get all the money. It's great, with roads, transport, >skyscrapers--all the modern conveniences. Farther away? Nope. The >farther you go, the worse it gets. > > ><snip> > >> >All this talk about enemies and the need to intercept plots is >> >Orwellian, of a different era, and a big mistake. �Such paranoid >> >drivel is what we once heard from despots behind the Iron Curtain-- >> >always an emergency, always some outside threat to The People, always >> >justifying some new intrusion against them, or excusing some failure >> >of hope or change. �I was there. >> >> >Bush threw the door open, and Mr. Obama's pouring through. >> >> >This is big stuff--we're not just being spent to China, we're losing >> >our republic. >> >> If the 'R's don't take the House in November, it's gone. �If they do, it >> prolongs the agony some. > >This can be fixed. I don't think it can, after another two years like this one. >Example: Missouri voters overwhelmingly reject Obamacare-- > http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/govt-and-politics/article_c847dc7c-564c-5c70-8d90-dfd25ae6de56.html > >We did this. More to come...stay tuned. Is it meaningful, though. Or is Holder going to sue MO next?
From: dagmargoodboat on 4 Aug 2010 23:23 On Aug 4, 6:10 pm, "k...(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz" <k...(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz> wrote: > On Wed, 4 Aug 2010 10:42:13 -0700 (PDT), dagmargoodb...(a)yahoo.com wrote: > >On Aug 3, 6:20 pm, "k...(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz" <k...(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz> > >wrote: > >> On Tue, 3 Aug 2010 03:34:44 -0700 (PDT), dagmargoodb...(a)yahoo.com wrote: > >> >On Aug 2, 10:14 pm, "k...(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz" > >> ><k...(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz> wrote: > >> >> On Mon, 2 Aug 2010 20:02:42 -0700 (PDT), dagmargoodb...(a)yahoo.com wrote: > > >> >> >They're seizing people's property. They're seizing people's assets. > >> >> >Last Thursday they came within 3 or 4 votes of effectively outlawing > >> >> >speech by their political opponents. > > >> >> >Elena Kagan thinks Congress can order you to eat three fruits and > >> >> >vegetables a day, constitutionally, under the Commerce clause. > > >> >> Commerce clause? That's so last century. > > >> >>http://www.breitbart.tv/congressman-at-town-hall-the-federal-governme... > > >> >It's only recently that I understood--by careful study--how good (and > >> >timeless) a control system the Constitution was, the checks it keeps > >> >on the natures and ambitions of men, and how far we've drifted from > >> >it. > > >> We were taught such things in school. That was before "Heather has Two > >> Mommys" took the place of Civics. > > >Well, for instance, I only just appreciated the value and importance > >of the Electoral College, and only because Massachusetts' end-run got > >me thinking. > > We discussed all that, too. > > >With it, the States keep each other in check. Without it, Boston > >dictates to North Dakota, and Boston wins every time. > > Yep. It's the United *States*. The 17th Amendment did huge damage to the > Constitution and the country. > > > > >I saw this personally in Chile. Santiago (the capital city) receives > >all the taxes, yet rules a 3,000-mile country. Santiago takes care of > >itself--they get all the money. It's great, with roads, transport, > >skyscrapers--all the modern conveniences. Farther away? Nope. The > >farther you go, the worse it gets. > > ><snip> > > >> >All this talk about enemies and the need to intercept plots is > >> >Orwellian, of a different era, and a big mistake. Such paranoid > >> >drivel is what we once heard from despots behind the Iron Curtain-- > >> >always an emergency, always some outside threat to The People, always > >> >justifying some new intrusion against them, or excusing some failure > >> >of hope or change. I was there. > > >> >Bush threw the door open, and Mr. Obama's pouring through. > > >> >This is big stuff--we're not just being spent to China, we're losing > >> >our republic. > > >> If the 'R's don't take the House in November, it's gone. If they do, it > >> prolongs the agony some. > > >This can be fixed. > > I don't think it can, after another two years like this one. > > >Example: Missouri voters overwhelmingly reject Obamacare-- > > http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/govt-and-politics/article_c847dc7c... > > >We did this. More to come...stay tuned. > > Is it meaningful, though. Or is Holder going to sue MO next? Meaningful? It's a tidal wave. James Arthur
From: krw on 5 Aug 2010 00:49 On Wed, 4 Aug 2010 20:23:51 -0700 (PDT), dagmargoodboat(a)yahoo.com wrote: >On Aug 4, 6:10�pm, "k...(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz" <k...(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz> >wrote: >> On Wed, 4 Aug 2010 10:42:13 -0700 (PDT), dagmargoodb...(a)yahoo.com wrote: >> >On Aug 3, 6:20�pm, "k...(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz" <k...(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz> >> >wrote: >> >> On Tue, 3 Aug 2010 03:34:44 -0700 (PDT), dagmargoodb...(a)yahoo.com wrote: >> >> >On Aug 2, 10:14�pm, "k...(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz" >> >> ><k...(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz> wrote: >> >> >> On Mon, 2 Aug 2010 20:02:42 -0700 (PDT), dagmargoodb...(a)yahoo.com wrote: >> >> >> >> >They're seizing people's property. �They're seizing people's assets. >> >> >> >Last Thursday they came within 3 or 4 votes of effectively outlawing >> >> >> >speech by their political opponents. >> >> >> >> >Elena Kagan thinks Congress can order you to eat three fruits and >> >> >> >vegetables a day, constitutionally, under the Commerce clause. >> >> >> >> Commerce clause? �That's so last century. >> >> >> >>http://www.breitbart.tv/congressman-at-town-hall-the-federal-governme... >> >> >> >It's only recently that I understood--by careful study--how good (and >> >> >timeless) a control system the Constitution was, the checks it keeps >> >> >on the natures and ambitions of men, and how far we've drifted from >> >> >it. >> >> >> We were taught such things in school. �That was before "Heather has Two >> >> Mommys" took the place of Civics. >> >> >Well, for instance, I only just appreciated the value and importance >> >of the Electoral College, and only because Massachusetts' end-run got >> >me thinking. >> >> We discussed all that, too. >> >> >With it, the States keep each other in check. �Without it, Boston >> >dictates to North Dakota, and Boston wins every time. >> >> Yep. �It's the United *States*. �The 17th Amendment did huge damage to the >> Constitution and the country. >> >> >> >> >I saw this personally in Chile. �Santiago (the capital city) receives >> >all the taxes, yet rules a 3,000-mile country. �Santiago takes care of >> >itself--they get all the money. �It's great, with roads, transport, >> >skyscrapers--all the modern conveniences. �Farther away? �Nope. �The >> >farther you go, the worse it gets. >> >> ><snip> >> >> >> >All this talk about enemies and the need to intercept plots is >> >> >Orwellian, of a different era, and a big mistake. �Such paranoid >> >> >drivel is what we once heard from despots behind the Iron Curtain-- >> >> >always an emergency, always some outside threat to The People, always >> >> >justifying some new intrusion against them, or excusing some failure >> >> >of hope or change. �I was there. >> >> >> >Bush threw the door open, and Mr. Obama's pouring through. >> >> >> >This is big stuff--we're not just being spent to China, we're losing >> >> >our republic. >> >> >> If the 'R's don't take the House in November, it's gone. �If they do, it >> >> prolongs the agony some. >> >> >This can be fixed. >> >> I don't think it can, after another two years like this one. >> >> >Example: Missouri voters overwhelmingly reject Obamacare-- >> > �http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/govt-and-politics/article_c847dc7c... >> >> >We did this. �More to come...stay tuned. >> >> Is it meaningful, though. �Or is Holder going to sue MO next? > >Meaningful? It's a tidal wave. Obama and his minions haven't been impressed so far.
From: dagmargoodboat on 5 Aug 2010 09:38
On Aug 5, 12:49 am, "k...(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz" <k...(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz> wrote: > dagmargoodb...(a)yahoo.com wrote: > > krw wrote: > >> dagmargoodb...(a)yahoo.com wrote: > >> >This can be fixed. > > >> I don't think it can, after another two years like this one. > > >> >Example: Missouri voters overwhelmingly reject Obamacare-- > >> > http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/govt-and-politics/article_c847dc7c... > > >> >We did this. More to come...stay tuned. > > >> Is it meaningful, though. Or is Holder going to sue MO next? > > >Meaningful? It's a tidal wave. > > Obama and his minions haven't been impressed so far. The propagandist's job is to make you think that. They're definitely impressed. Terrified. I read last week that 75%(!) of Americans believe their government is governing against their interest. That is the stuff of revolutions. Several states have had enough--at some point people will just start ignoring Mr. O's laws. Missouri's at that point, Arizona's essentially there, Texas, and several other states are close too. Civil disobedience--MO's just approved it, with more to follow. If we keep passing absurd laws that no one's read, no one's going to follow them either. |