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From: Greegor on 3 Aug 2010 03:48 > "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together > in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal > system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." > Frederic Bastiat Thanks. It works for the welfare state as well. Even in a kook liberal state like Minnesota, welfare reform under Reagan averted the the TOTAL welfare state, at that time. Even the less extreme liberals there let out a breath of relief. I was at a party once where there was a pregnant woman who was a charity case but proudly claimed that society owed her because making her baby was a duty to society. Even my LIBERAL SO at that time was disgusted at this almost Marxist BS. Minnesota had been heading for a situation where the welfare recipients ran the voting booths. Reagan pulled MN back from the brink, then. In the early 1980's a new Office Etc store opened a block from my home and THOUSANDS of people applied for work, lining up around the block. The forms made it clear their priority was to hire people off the welfare rolls to get welfare to work subsidies or credits. I left, disgusted, when I found that out. In the early 1980's I also attended a Jobs Training program and discovered that a LOT of jobs I might have gotten otherwise were being set aside for welfare to work people. I complained that if they hadn't set aside those jobs, half the people in the program wouldn't have needed it. As I was trained to do, each time I was between jobs I ran to apply for unemployment in a HUGE line in a HUGE employment services building in downtown Minneapolis. (I bet the building is gone.) They had big budget/staff cuts there and because of my occasional perfunctory visits I noticed that the people they cut were NOT the lazy ones in the back but the front line personnel who actually served the public! Even to this day I HATE going to any state Job Service office. The last time I was at our local one here I stood on tippy toes to count the bureaucrats and cubicles trying to roughly estimate the payroll cost alone for the staff at our local Jobs office. That Jobs Training class back in the early 80's had taught me that the efficacy of newspaper ads and Job Service offices are a huge farce. Of people who got a job, less than 5% got it through Job Service. Of people who got a job, something like 3% got it through a newspaper job ad. Many job ads are for jobs where they already have some buddy or relative in mind for the job anyway. (See the H1B visa scam going on now.) Many ads are only to satisfy government BS. Of people who got a job, something like 60% got it because they had a buddy or relative already working there. I usually got hired based on merit. Even the one job I can think of where a buddy connection helped, merit and skills were still a much higher priority. Heck I was an entrepeneur in elementary school. Small business is very much in my blood. Both sets of grandparents and both parents ran small businesses. I hate bureacracy so much that even large corporate employers make me sick. Even the Communist holdouts like Raul Castro have figured out that MILLIONS of bureaucrats is a drag on the economy.
From: dagmargoodboat on 3 Aug 2010 04:49 On Aug 3, 1:32 am, Robert Baer <robertb...(a)localnet.com> wrote: > hamilton wrote: > > On 8/2/2010 9:56 AM, John Larkin wrote: > > >> This is sort of like the faster-than-the-wind sail car: > > >>http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=CNG.b4a79e079069c2b3889441cfa.... > > >> John > > > This link says: > > > "Cuba eyes more self-employment as massive layoffs loom" > > > Maybe they changed it on you. > > > hamilton > > I get the same "Cuba eyes".. Yes, that's the story we're talking about. Here's a version I've been quoting: (AP) Raul Castro says state will reduce economic role http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100802/ap_on_bi_ge/cb_cuba_parliament_4 -- Cheers, James Arthur
From: John Larkin on 3 Aug 2010 09:47 On Mon, 2 Aug 2010 22:25:55 -0700 (PDT), "miso(a)sushi.com" <miso(a)sushi.com> wrote: >On Aug 2, 12:51�pm, dagmargoodb...(a)yahoo.com wrote: >> On Aug 2, 2:43�pm, "m...(a)sushi.com" <m...(a)sushi.com> wrote: >> >> > On Aug 2, 8:56�am, John Larkin >> >> > <jjlar...(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote: >> > > This is sort of like the faster-than-the-wind sail car: >> >> > >http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=CNG.b4a79e079069c2b3889441cfa... >> >> > > John >> >> > Given this guy's record for lies and deception, why give brain fart >> > the time of day? >> >> Lies and deception? >> >> -- >> Cheers, >> James Arthur > >http://mediamatters.org/research/201007200047 > >Hard to find bigger scum than this guy. No, it's easy. Kos, Conason, Klein, Huffington. John
From: dagmargoodboat on 4 Aug 2010 09:31 On Aug 3, 12:25 am, "m...(a)sushi.com" <m...(a)sushi.com> wrote: > On Aug 2, 12:51 pm, dagmargoodb...(a)yahoo.com wrote: > > > > > On Aug 2, 2:43 pm, "m...(a)sushi.com" <m...(a)sushi.com> wrote: > > > > On Aug 2, 8:56 am, John Larkin > > > > <jjlar...(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote: > > > > This is sort of like the faster-than-the-wind sail car: > > > > >http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=CNG.b4a79e079069c2b3889441cfa... > > > > > John > > > > Given this guy's record for lies and deception, why give brain fart > > > the time of day? > > > Lies and deception? > > > http://mediamatters.org/research/201007200047 > > Hard to find bigger scum than this guy. Ahh, the Shirley Sherrod video. Thanks for clarifying. AFAICT someone sent Breitbart a video, scratchy audio, and he ran with it. Then a clean copy of the full thing came out, and he posted bits of that too. Was he wrong on the sentiment? I listened to 30 minutes of the NAACP's offering (the full speech). Class envy. Sad. Her husband's the star of his own less-than-flattering video sensation. Google "Finally, we have to stop the white man and his Uncle Toms from stealing our elections." And then we have this--the Sherrods, running their own land cooperative, were abusive employers: http://www.counterpunch.org/wilkins08022010.html (punchline at the end) -- Best, James Arthur
From: dagmargoodboat on 4 Aug 2010 09:51
On Aug 3, 2:48 am, Greegor <greego...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together > > in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal > > system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." > > Frederic Bastiat > > Thanks. > > It works for the welfare state as well. The welfare state is exactly what Bastiat was writing about--that's what he meant. You might enjoy "The Law," by Bastiat. Here's a selection to get you started: http://bastiat.org/en/the_law.html#SECTION_G714 > Even in a kook liberal state like Minnesota, > welfare reform under Reagan averted > the the TOTAL welfare state, at that time. > Even the less extreme liberals there > let out a breath of relief. > > I was at a party once where there was a > pregnant woman who was a charity case > but proudly claimed that society owed > her because making her baby was a > duty to society. > > Even my LIBERAL SO at that time was > disgusted at this almost Marxist BS. > > Minnesota had been heading for a situation > where the welfare recipients ran the voting booths. > > Reagan pulled MN back from the brink, then. And we can pull America back. It's a living, breathing, vibrant thing when we take our boot off its neck. It will heal, if we let it. <snip> > I hate bureacracy so much that even > large corporate employers make me sick. > > Even the Communist holdouts like Raul > Castro have figured out that MILLIONS > of bureaucrats is a drag on the economy. Sure, it can't be otherwise. And it doesn't work. Central control, in a society, can't process the volume of feedback in real time, or preserve the signal integrity. So, perforce, it operates open-loop. Open-loop, in a society, means inflexible (=inefficient), and it means force. Authoritarian. It means compelling people to do things as a matter of law. Hence Obamacare. Hence Bastiat's "The Law." -- Cheers, James Arthur |