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From: Kevin McMurtrie on 24 Jul 2010 05:07 In article <5v4h461k2q37f9fj20umjubhfvn1qd1o20(a)4ax.com>, Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon(a)On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote: > On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 19:34:50 +0100, nospam <nospam(a)please.invalid> > wrote: > > >Tim Wescott <tim(a)seemywebsite.com> wrote: > > > >>On 07/22/2010 08:29 AM, John Larkin wrote: > >>> > >>> http://www.ecomotors.com/technology > >> > >>Few of those "new and innovative" "green" engines are doing anything > >>newer than rehashes of basic concepts that were tried and abandoned* > >>before 1910. > > > >When all they can show is rendered 3D models you know it is all just > >bollocks which had a green label stuck on it to attract venture capital. > > > >So much easier and safer sticking with computer models instead of building > >something which will demonstrate you are only getting half your claimed > >performance for a few hours before it falls to bits. > > Aha! It's used in the Audi A3 ?:-) > > ...Jim Thompson Eh? Recent Audis and BMWs are probably tougher and more reliable than recent Hondas and Toyotas. Who makes the best car varies from year to year. Honda and Toyota excelled at refining machinery to a simple essence that did exactly what was needed; nothing more or less. It cut costs, made manufacturing easy, improved performance, and there were fewer parts to fail. The complexity (and hacky nature) of hybrids has been giving them heaps of trouble. -- I won't see Google Groups replies because I must filter them as spam
From: John Larkin on 24 Jul 2010 12:11 On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 02:07:50 -0700, Kevin McMurtrie <mcmurtrie(a)pixelmemory.us> wrote: >In article <5v4h461k2q37f9fj20umjubhfvn1qd1o20(a)4ax.com>, > Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon(a)On-My-Web-Site.com> > wrote: > >> On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 19:34:50 +0100, nospam <nospam(a)please.invalid> >> wrote: >> >> >Tim Wescott <tim(a)seemywebsite.com> wrote: >> > >> >>On 07/22/2010 08:29 AM, John Larkin wrote: >> >>> >> >>> http://www.ecomotors.com/technology >> >> >> >>Few of those "new and innovative" "green" engines are doing anything >> >>newer than rehashes of basic concepts that were tried and abandoned* >> >>before 1910. >> > >> >When all they can show is rendered 3D models you know it is all just >> >bollocks which had a green label stuck on it to attract venture capital. >> > >> >So much easier and safer sticking with computer models instead of building >> >something which will demonstrate you are only getting half your claimed >> >performance for a few hours before it falls to bits. >> >> Aha! It's used in the Audi A3 ?:-) >> >> ...Jim Thompson > >Eh? Recent Audis and BMWs are probably tougher and more reliable than >recent Hondas and Toyotas. Who makes the best car varies from year to >year. Honda and Toyota excelled at refining machinery to a simple >essence that did exactly what was needed; nothing more or less. It cut >costs, made manufacturing easy, improved performance, and there were >fewer parts to fail. The complexity (and hacky nature) of hybrids has >been giving them heaps of trouble. The rice burners are mostly aimed at the US market, so they tend to look like and drive like American boats. I'm glad the Germans still care to make cars for drivers, and not for little old ladies. My A3 is awesome to drive in 3-space, especially at 7000 feet with snow on the ground. It feels like it has claws instead of tires. My wife's Honda Fit isn't bad for a Japanese car. It's small and tight and quick. The bigger Hondas and Toyotas tend to be mushy; she gets car-sick in most of them. John
From: Jim Thompson on 24 Jul 2010 12:46 On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 09:11:36 -0700, John Larkin <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote: >On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 02:07:50 -0700, Kevin McMurtrie ><mcmurtrie(a)pixelmemory.us> wrote: > >>In article <5v4h461k2q37f9fj20umjubhfvn1qd1o20(a)4ax.com>, >> Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon(a)On-My-Web-Site.com> >> wrote: >> >>> On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 19:34:50 +0100, nospam <nospam(a)please.invalid> >>> wrote: >>> >>> >Tim Wescott <tim(a)seemywebsite.com> wrote: >>> > >>> >>On 07/22/2010 08:29 AM, John Larkin wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> http://www.ecomotors.com/technology >>> >> >>> >>Few of those "new and innovative" "green" engines are doing anything >>> >>newer than rehashes of basic concepts that were tried and abandoned* >>> >>before 1910. >>> > >>> >When all they can show is rendered 3D models you know it is all just >>> >bollocks which had a green label stuck on it to attract venture capital. >>> > >>> >So much easier and safer sticking with computer models instead of building >>> >something which will demonstrate you are only getting half your claimed >>> >performance for a few hours before it falls to bits. >>> >>> Aha! It's used in the Audi A3 ?:-) >>> >>> ...Jim Thompson >> >>Eh? Recent Audis and BMWs are probably tougher and more reliable than >>recent Hondas and Toyotas. Who makes the best car varies from year to >>year. Honda and Toyota excelled at refining machinery to a simple >>essence that did exactly what was needed; nothing more or less. It cut >>costs, made manufacturing easy, improved performance, and there were >>fewer parts to fail. The complexity (and hacky nature) of hybrids has >>been giving them heaps of trouble. > >The rice burners are mostly aimed at the US market, so they tend to >look like and drive like American boats. Not the Infiniti's, not even the "G" series >I'm glad the Germans still >care to make cars for drivers, and not for little old ladies. My A3 is >awesome to drive in 3-space, especially at 7000 feet with snow on the >ground. It feels like it has claws instead of tires. > >My wife's Honda Fit isn't bad for a Japanese car. It's small and tight >and quick. The bigger Hondas and Toyotas tend to be mushy; she gets >car-sick in most of them. > >John (1) How about a drag race? (2) How about a road race, here to Yuma and back? ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson, CTO | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | | | Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat | | E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | Spice is like a sports car... Only as good as the person behind the wheel.
From: Jim Thompson on 24 Jul 2010 12:49 On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 02:07:50 -0700, Kevin McMurtrie <mcmurtrie(a)pixelmemory.us> wrote: >In article <5v4h461k2q37f9fj20umjubhfvn1qd1o20(a)4ax.com>, > Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon(a)On-My-Web-Site.com> > wrote: > >> On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 19:34:50 +0100, nospam <nospam(a)please.invalid> >> wrote: >> >> >Tim Wescott <tim(a)seemywebsite.com> wrote: >> > >> >>On 07/22/2010 08:29 AM, John Larkin wrote: >> >>> >> >>> http://www.ecomotors.com/technology >> >> >> >>Few of those "new and innovative" "green" engines are doing anything >> >>newer than rehashes of basic concepts that were tried and abandoned* >> >>before 1910. >> > >> >When all they can show is rendered 3D models you know it is all just >> >bollocks which had a green label stuck on it to attract venture capital. >> > >> >So much easier and safer sticking with computer models instead of building >> >something which will demonstrate you are only getting half your claimed >> >performance for a few hours before it falls to bits. >> >> Aha! It's used in the Audi A3 ?:-) >> >> ...Jim Thompson > >Eh? Recent Audis and BMWs are probably tougher and more reliable than >recent Hondas and Toyotas. Who makes the best car varies from year to >year. Honda and Toyota excelled at refining machinery to a simple >essence that did exactly what was needed; nothing more or less. It cut >costs, made manufacturing easy, improved performance, and there were >fewer parts to fail. The complexity (and hacky nature) of hybrids has >been giving them heaps of trouble. I was going by a several year old (*) Consumer Reports Buying Guide. (*) I don't have a current one, or at least can't find it... I cancelled my subscription AND my annual donation when I confirmed that CU endorsed the Obama Health Plan. (And they refused to answer my inquiry as to if they were receiving TARP money. I think Obama has bought just about everyone's vote :-( ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson, CTO | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | | | Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat | | E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | Spice is like a sports car... Only as good as the person behind the wheel.
From: Paul Hovnanian P.E. on 24 Jul 2010 15:25
John Larkin wrote: [snip] > > Two-cycle engines have always interested me, although this one isn't > simple like my Yamaha 250 was. Great power to weight ratios. Hence their use in bikes and portable tools (chain saws, etc.). But not very clean in most implementations. I could build a 100 MPG car today. But the EPA would never let it on the road. -- Paul Hovnanian paul(a)hovnanian.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Have gnu, will travel. |