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From: David Combs on 25 Jun 2010 17:13
Not only for technical stuff, but usenet is ideal for POLITICAL
discussion, distribution of new news, warnings of this
or that, and so forth.

Now, ever since Bill Clinton's signing the Telecommunication
Act (allowed huge corporate mergers in media outlets),
Bush illegal spying on phone calls, trying to get rid of
Net "neutrality", illegal orange-suited "renditions",
patriot act probably ready-to-go BEFORE 9-11, and passed
with no one reading it, Obama "no change you could ever
believe in (except via fox news)" plus his recent statement
that he can (and will) shoot ANY AMERICAN he SUSPECTS to
MAYBE be somehow have once touched or listened to a "terrorist",

given all that, your biggest fear might well be the internet
as a way to BYPASS the government line. And QUICKLY, too.

So perhaps the government or the corporations or the
universities (whose Boards are chosen from high corporate
management!) -- might that have something to do with
the "demise" of newsgroups?

I mean, we KNOW that Bush, Cheney, and likely Obama too, sure
would like to CONTROL the internet.

No joke, guys, I wonder just how much their efforts have to
do with all this.


David


From: Randal L. Schwartz on 25 Jun 2010 18:50
>>>>> "Ian" == Ian Collins <ian-news(a)hotmail.com> writes:

Ian> I'm sure most people here do as I do and use their mail client
Ian> (Thunderbird in my case) to access Usenet.

What would it take to convince you that you're wrong? :)

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From: Ian Collins on 25 Jun 2010 19:09
On 06/26/10 10:50 AM, Randal L. Schwartz wrote:
>>>>>> "Ian" == Ian Collins<ian-news(a)hotmail.com> writes:
>
> Ian> I'm sure most people here do as I do and use their mail client
> Ian> (Thunderbird in my case) to access Usenet.
>
> What would it take to convince you that you're wrong? :)

In Thunderbird, ^U!

My point was most people who have a choice avoid web interfaces to Usenet.

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From: Richard B. Gilbert on 25 Jun 2010 21:07
Ian Collins wrote:
> On 06/26/10 08:51 AM, David Combs wrote:
>>
>> Come visit sometime (New Rochelle, NY, 35 min N of Grand Central Station)
>> and I'll DEMONSTRATE this thing I (and many, many, MANY others too)
>> use for reading "news", and you'll never go back to your web interface!
>
> I'm sure most people here do as I do and use their mail client
> (Thunderbird in my case) to access Usenet.
>

You took the words right out of my fingers! I also use Thunderbird for
mail and news.

Fashionable, or not, it gets the job done!

From: Rick Jones on 25 Jun 2010 21:04
Randal L. Schwartz <merlyn(a)stonehenge.com> wrote:
> >>>>> "Ian" == Ian Collins <ian-news(a)hotmail.com> writes:

> Ian> I'm sure most people here do as I do and use their mail client
> Ian> (Thunderbird in my case) to access Usenet.

> What would it take to convince you that you're wrong? :)

Looking at the headers of 100 randomly selected posts?-) IIRC the news
client will put its name in a header somewhere.

rick jones
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