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From: Mike Scott on 6 Jul 2010 13:19 Michael Adams wrote: ..... > I sometimes get a little jaded by those that do not adequately explain their > issue. > An art in terminal decay, methinks. -- Mike Scott --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscribe(a)openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-help(a)openoffice.org
From: Barbara Duprey on 6 Jul 2010 18:03 Mike Scott wrote: > Barbara Duprey wrote: >> Mike Scott wrote: >>> Barbara Duprey wrote: >>> ..... >>>> By the way, please respond only to the list >>>> (discuss(a)openoffice.org), so others can help as needed. >>>> >>> >>> Unless you cc'd the OP, they won't see any of this anyway.... yet >>> another unsubscribed user. (I don't think they've used gmane.) >>> >> >> I did copy the OP (as another To:). When I respond to an unsubscribed >> user, as in this case, I generally include a statement at the top that > > That's good, except others can't see that you've done this! ?? Thunderbird, and I thought all other e-mail programs, will automatically display a list of the To and CC recipients of a message (not BCC'ed ones, of course). The other two things (the note about the user being unsubscribed, and the note that the OP should respond to the list) are part of the message itself. What can't others see? > But they'll still not receive replies to replies on the list (such as > this one) because people don't realize/care that the OP (a mile off > the screen top) wasn't subscribed. But we keep coming here, no? Yes. So far the best option I've found is to give the OP a link into the old.nabble copy of the thread (they can follow the discussion and respond; I think that also gets them into an Injected-by situation that means their responses are not moderated). It's also, I think, less intimidating for a newbie to use than Gmane for this purpose. But I'm not sure of the overall stability of this solution, so I hesitate to recommend it as a general response. There's been talk of moving the OOo lists to another part of nabble, for instance, and the OOo administrators have no control over what nabble (or Gmane,for that matter) chooses to do. The real solution should be contained within OOo's own control. I'm hoping that the Kenai implementation will take this in hand. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscribe(a)openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-help(a)openoffice.org
From: Mike Scott on 7 Jul 2010 06:24 Barbara Duprey wrote: .... >>> I did copy the OP (as another To:). When I respond to an unsubscribed >>> user, as in this case, I generally include a statement at the top that >> >> That's good, except others can't see that you've done this! > > ?? Thunderbird, and I thought all other e-mail programs, will > automatically display a list of the To and CC recipients of a message No, that's not necessarily true. It rather depends on the display options set - for various reasons, irrelevant here, I only see subject, from, and date without additional multiple mouse clicks. -- Mike Scott --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscribe(a)openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-help(a)openoffice.org
From: Barbara Duprey on 7 Jul 2010 09:49
Mike Scott wrote: > Barbara Duprey wrote: > ... >>>> I did copy the OP (as another To:). When I respond to an >>>> unsubscribed user, as in this case, I generally include a >>>> statement at the top that >>> >>> That's good, except others can't see that you've done this! >> >> ?? Thunderbird, and I thought all other e-mail programs, will >> automatically display a list of the To and CC recipients of a message > > No, that's not necessarily true. It rather depends on the display > options set - for various reasons, irrelevant here, I only see > subject, from, and date without additional multiple mouse clicks. If you've set the options that way, what about in the list of available messages? In the default setup for TB, the "Recipient" field shows the To list (not cc's) -- so I can sometimes see if the reply was sent to the OP without even looking at the header. Since it doesn't show the cc's, I have to look at the header to check if somebody else has responded to the OP that way, but when people use the To mechanism it's obvious. I certainly wouldn't have any use for the kind of option you're referring to, though, because it's so often relevant to know who else has gotten the messages I'm seeing (not just for the lists, but everywhere). And having message content like what I typically use at least shows that I'm aware they're not subscribed (though that doesn't necessarily mean I remembered to copy them :-) ). --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscribe(a)openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-help(a)openoffice.org |