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From: Dan C on 26 May 2010 21:27 On Wed, 26 May 2010 15:16:31 -0500, Richard Kimber wrote: > On Tue, 25 May 2010 15:31:37 +0000, Dan C wrote: > >> Understood. My point was that there are still other choices as well, >> that work perfectly. Also, the OP claimed that there was "no vendor >> support", which I responded to because that simply isn't true. > > I didn't say that. > > - Richard Yup, my mistake. Somebody else who responded to your OP did. My point about "no vendor support" by Broadcom is still true. -- "Ubuntu" -- an African word, meaning "Slackware is too hard for me". "Bother!" said Pooh, as he found his pit crew eating ice cream. Usenet Improvement Project: http://twovoyagers.com/improve-usenet.org/ Thanks, Obama: http://brandybuck.site40.net/pics/politica/thanks.jpg
From: Dan C on 26 May 2010 21:28 On Wed, 26 May 2010 15:13:50 -0500, Richard Kimber wrote: > On Tue, 25 May 2010 01:54:46 +0000, Dan C wrote: > >> Not true about Broadcom. I have it in this laptop, and am using this >> driver supplied by Broadcom. Works great. >> >> Here: http://www.broadcom.com/support/802.11/linux_sta.php >> >> Please don't make claims about something you don't know about... > > But it doesn't "just work". My Acer has Broadcom. It clearly doesn't > work without some sort of effort, and I've not been able to get it > working, and I have limited time to spend researching it. The CD writer > "just works", my graphics card "just works", I want a machine where the > wireless "just works". Yeah, well, the "some sort of effort" is not real extensive. It's quite simple, in fact. <shrug> -- "Ubuntu" -- an African word, meaning "Slackware is too hard for me". "Bother!" said Pooh, as he scrambled his partition table. Usenet Improvement Project: http://twovoyagers.com/improve-usenet.org/ Thanks, Obama: http://brandybuck.site40.net/pics/politica/thanks.jpg
From: Henrik Carlqvist on 27 May 2010 02:28 Baho Utot <baho-utot(a)invalid.com> wrote: > I don't understand all the angst over the broadcomm chipsets? Broadcom has made many chipsets, both for wireless and wired networks. > The only thing I needed to get them to work on Slack, Arch and my own custom > built system was to "install" the broadcomm firmware Yes, some of their chipsets work fine with opensource drivers (like the tg3). Some of their chipset has glitches with opensource drivers (like the bnx2). And finally, some of their chipset has no opensource drivers at all (like the STA now discussed). So buying a computer with chipsets from broadcom doesn't have to mean that you will get yourself into trouble. If you are lucky you might get some broadcom chipset that works fine. If you see a computer with some broadcom chipset that you might buy you should ask yourself two important questions: 1) Does this chipset have opensource drivers? 2) Does the chipset and its driver work without problems? Usually it is possible to find the answer to both those questions at www.google.com. It is a lot easier to start at www.google.com before buying than coming to alt.os.linux.slackware after buying. Of course the above questions apply to all hardware, it is just that for some vendors the answers is allways the same for that vendor. regards Henrik -- The address in the header is only to prevent spam. My real address is: hc3(at)poolhem.se Examples of addresses which go to spammers: root(a)localhost postmaster(a)localhost
From: Tecknode on 28 May 2010 10:08 On 05/24/2010 10:16 AM, Richard Kimber wrote: > Hi: > > I'm thinking of getting a new laptop. Given that I've had endless > problems with the wireless on my old one (Acer Aspire 5002), I wondered > if anyone had a recommendation for a brand of laptop on which the > wireless "just works". I'll be using Ubuntu 10.04. I have been looking > at a Samsung: > > Samsung R730 17.3-inch Notebook (PDC T4300 2.1 GHz Processor, 4 GB RAM, > 320 GB HDD HDD, DVDRW, 6 Cell Battery, HD+, HDMI, Webcam, Windows 7 Home > Premium, Red/Silver) > > ... but I get the impression people have had wireless problems with that. > > Thanks. Consider buying from a vendor who specializes in Linux systems. This is much better than an off-the-shelf Laptop that may, or may not, be fully compatible with Linux. I got my Ubuntu Notebook from "Linux Certified" the one in the below URL. Price will include **pre-loading** the Linux Desktop of your choice (Ubuntu in our case). Order the built-in WiFi card at extra cost, but they will test it before shipping. http://www.linuxcertified.com/linux-laptop-lc2100sn.html I am using my Ubuntu Notebook as we "speak." -- ======== Tecknomage ======== Computer Systems Specialist IT Technician San Diego, CA
From: Marc Haber on 29 May 2010 10:51
Henrik Carlqvist <Henrik.Carlqvist(a)deadspam.com> wrote: >Yes, some of their chipsets work fine with opensource drivers (like the >tg3). Some of their chipset has glitches with opensource >drivers (like the bnx2). And finally, some of their chipset has no >opensource drivers at all (like the STA now discussed). The 4312/4315 Low Power PHY WLAN Chips that are often found in "better" netbooks are quite painful to use if you're not using bleeding edge developer distributions. Greetings Marc -- -------------------------------------- !! No courtesy copies, please !! ----- Marc Haber | " Questions are the | Mailadresse im Header Mannheim, Germany | Beginning of Wisdom " | http://www.zugschlus.de/ Nordisch by Nature | Lt. Worf, TNG "Rightful Heir" | Fon: *49 621 72739834 |