From: Graham J on
[snip]
>
> I am dubious as to whether it will work. Basically this router worked
> for six months until a year ago. suddenly stopped working. I totally
> ignored it as did not need wireless for a while. now i have got giant
> sofa i would like to get it working again. Owt's not working. It doesn't
> like the iMac, or something. Or the laptop.

It's unlikely that the wireless failure is due to firmware corruption - but
all things are possible. You wouldn't replace the engine in your car as the
first diagnostic step if it didn't start - more likely the last resort once
you have proved a catastrophic failure!

Try these simple steps and report what you find. Stop at the first failure
and report back.

Connect a computer directly to the router using an ethernet cable.

1) Can you see the router's management page?

2) Does the router tell you it has an internet connection?

3) Can you browse the internet from the computer?

Get all this working FIRST !!!

Navigate to the router's wireless settings, make a note of the SSID and the
wireless security settings. You probably won't be able to see the security
key so enter a new one that you write down so that you never forget it!

Leave this computer connected to the router, monitoring the wireless status.

Go to your iMac and enable the wireless setting. Delete all stored wireless
profiles so you start from a clean slate.

A) Does the iMac see ANY wireless access points? (Certainly likely if you
have computer-using neighbours!)

B) Does it see YOUR access point (i.e. your router) (recognisable by the
SSID you saw earlier)

C) Does it offer to connect to your router?

D) When you try to connect, does it ask for a security key? If so provide
the key you put in the router earlier.

E) Does it claim to have connected?

F) Does it report a sensible IP address and default gateway? (You might
need to use the command line to find these out.)

G) Can you ping the router?

H) Can you ping a known good address on the internet? (www.bbc.co.uk is
usually pingable)

I) Can you browse to the router's management page?

J) Can you browse websites on the internet?

If you see a failure look at the computer that is monitoring the router's
wireless status? Refresh the page: does it show any attempt to connect?
Does it indicate any failure and perhaps give a reason?

Try another - known good - computer with wireless.

Try your iMac with a known good Acces Point.

If you are able to prove that your router is faulty then it might be worth
upgrading its firmware. The instructions will almost certainly explain how
to do this from a connected PC, but the mechanism usually requires either a
FTP or TFTP server so it should be possible to do it from a Mac.

--
Graham J


From: bella jonez on
Woody <usenet(a)alienrat.co.uk> wrote:
> Bella Jones <me9(a)privacy.net> wrote:
>
> > Woody <usenet(a)alienrat.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> > > Woody <usenet(a)alienrat.co.uk> wrote:
> > [...]
> > > > > >
> > > > > > according to
> > > > > > <http://www.linksysbycisco.com/UK/en/support/WRT54GR/download>
> > > > > > it is 2.19MB
> > > > > >
> > > > > > its a zip file that contains a readme and the firmware
> > > > > > update,
> > > > > > which is 2.3MB
> > > > >
> > > > > oh god FFS I never got that page! I got one like it but
> > > > > nothing showed
> > > > > and I went to another list of stuff on another page where the
> > > > > huge files
> > > > > were.
> > > >
> > > > I just went to linksys, put your model in the search and
> > > > selected
> > > > downloads.
> > > >
> > > > > Thanks - it's best I leave this stuff alone, really, isn't it.
> > > > > And
> > > > > there's no saying it'll work even if I do upgrade the effing
> > > > > thing.
> > > >
> > > > I haven't been keeping up with what the issue is. Wireless can
> > > > be a pain
> > > > sometimes but if you just copy that file over, update it, and
> > > > plug your
> > > > details in, it should be reasonbly happy
> > >
> > > This is assuming you had a reason to update the firmware? Although
> > > it is
> > > generally a good idea to have the latest, although I tend to stay
> > > with
> > > working ones if there isn't a really compelling reason to upgrade.
> >
> > I am dubious as to whether it will work. Basically this router
> > worked
> > for six months until a year ago. suddenly stopped working. I totally
> > ignored it as did not need wireless for a while. now i have got
> > giant
> > sofa i would like to get it working again. Owt's not working. It
> > doesn't
> > like the iMac, or something. Or the laptop.
>
> Hmm.. so it doesn't work at all? Unlikely to be firmware, as the
> firmware either works or doesn't. If it worked and stopped, it either
> died or reset in some funny mode.
> Do the firmware update, do a complete reset, then just do the simple
> setup. If that doesn't work, don't waste any more time on it, get
> someone to do it for you.
>
>
What's so frustrarting is that the router lights come on and a witless
network is visible and connected. Anyway, I will lookat it all again
soon.
From: bella jonez on
"Graham J" <graham(a)invalid> wrote:
> [snip]
> >
> > I am dubious as to whether it will work. Basically this router
> > worked
> > for six months until a year ago. suddenly stopped working. I totally
> > ignored it as did not need wireless for a while. now i have got
> > giant
> > sofa i would like to get it working again. Owt's not working. It
> > doesn't
> > like the iMac, or something. Or the laptop.
>
> It's unlikely that the wireless failure is due to firmware corruption
> - but
> all things are possible. You wouldn't replace the engine in your car
> as the
> first diagnostic step if it didn't start - more likely the last resort
> once
> you have proved a catastrophic failure!
>
> Try these simple steps and report what you find. Stop at the first
> failure
> and report back.
>
> Connect a computer directly to the router using an ethernet cable.
>
> 1) Can you see the router's management page?
>
> 2) Does the router tell you it has an internet connection?
>
> 3) Can you browse the internet from the computer?
>
> Get all this working FIRST !!!
>
> Navigate to the router's wireless settings, make a note of the SSID
> and the
> wireless security settings. You probably won't be able to see the
> security
> key so enter a new one that you write down so that you never forget
> it!
>
> Leave this computer connected to the router, monitoring the wireless
> status.
>
> Go to your iMac and enable the wireless setting. Delete all stored
> wireless
> profiles so you start from a clean slate.
>
> A) Does the iMac see ANY wireless access points? (Certainly likely if
> you
> have computer-using neighbours!)
>
> B) Does it see YOUR access point (i.e. your router) (recognisable by
> the
> SSID you saw earlier)
>
> C) Does it offer to connect to your router?
>
> D) When you try to connect, does it ask for a security key? If so
> provide
> the key you put in the router earlier.
>
> E) Does it claim to have connected?
>
> F) Does it report a sensible IP address and default gateway? (You
> might
> need to use the command line to find these out.)
>
> G) Can you ping the router?
>
> H) Can you ping a known good address on the internet? (www.bbc.co.uk
> is
> usually pingable)
>
> I) Can you browse to the router's management page?
>
> J) Can you browse websites on the internet?
>
> If you see a failure look at the computer that is monitoring the
> router's
> wireless status? Refresh the page: does it show any attempt to
> connect?
> Does it indicate any failure and perhaps give a reason?
>
> Try another - known good - computer with wireless.
>
> Try your iMac with a known good Acces Point.
>
> If you are able to prove that your router is faulty then it might be
> worth
> upgrading its firmware. The instructions will almost certainly
> explain how
> to do this from a connected PC, but the mechanism usually requires
> either a
> FTP or TFTP server so it should be possible to do it from a Mac.

Sorry still not figured out snipping on iPhone.

This looks great, thanks so much. Will look again v soon.
From: Woody on
bella jonez <bellajonez(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> Woody <usenet(a)alienrat.co.uk> wrote:

> > Hmm.. so it doesn't work at all? Unlikely to be firmware, as the
> > firmware either works or doesn't. If it worked and stopped, it either
> > died or reset in some funny mode.
> > Do the firmware update, do a complete reset, then just do the simple
> > setup. If that doesn't work, don't waste any more time on it, get
> > someone to do it for you.
> >
> >
> What's so frustrarting is that the router lights come on and a witless
> network is visible and connected. Anyway, I will lookat it all again
> soon.

It is probably the witless network that is giving you trouble!

if you have a wireless network, the rest is easy, just a bit of
configuration

--
Woody

www.alienrat.com
From: Chris Ridd on
On 2010-03-07 22:40:55 +0000, Graham J said:

> Navigate to the router's wireless settings, make a note of the SSID and
> the wireless security settings. You probably won't be able to see the
> security key so enter a new one that you write down so that you never
> forget it!

I would change the SSID at this point to something unique. "Bella's
network" or something. Otherwise any connection problems you're having
/might/ be down to you trying to connect to a neighbour's identically
named network.
--
Chris

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