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From: Heiko Carstens on 9 Aug 2010 10:20 On Mon, Aug 09, 2010 at 09:49:17AM -0400, Don Zickus wrote: > > > Why s390 doesn't want the softlockup detector to begin with? > > > > If I remember correctly then we disabled that back then because we got > > false positives. The reason for those were that the softlockup detector > > did not take steal time into account. > > E.g. if a guest cpu runs for 10 seconds, but the hypervisor would steal > > 9 seconds in order to run other guest cpus this specific cpu would still > > think it ran for 10 seconds and therefore would generate invalid warnings. > > I have learned recently that is applies to all virtual machines including > KVM, Xen and VMWare(?). However, you only see this when you overload the > hypervisor with lots of guests. Which is why you normally don't see this > on those types of guests. On s390 you always run virtualized and usually even as a 2nd level guest. Overloading a machine is quite common here. The problem we have is that you can't tell afterwards if a warning was valid or invalid due to overloading. Imho it is just pointless without taking steal time into account and that's why we disabled it. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo(a)vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/ |