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From: Jens Axboe on 8 Apr 2010 08:50 On Thu, Apr 08 2010, Nikanth Karthikesan wrote: > Update mtime when writing to backing filesystem using the address space > operations write_begin and write_end. You forgot to include a 'why' :-) Not that I disagree with the patch, just curious what made you make the change. -- Jens Axboe -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo(a)vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
From: Tvrtko Ursulin on 8 Apr 2010 10:30 On Thursday 08 April 2010 13:45:39 Jens Axboe wrote: > On Thu, Apr 08 2010, Nikanth Karthikesan wrote: > > Update mtime when writing to backing filesystem using the address space > > operations write_begin and write_end. > > You forgot to include a 'why' :-) > > Not that I disagree with the patch, just curious what made you make the > change. You mean how the bug was found? I originally reported this problem against openSUSE 11.2 kernel, where when you have a dm-crypt loop filesystem the container file modification time does not get updated with use. Consequence of that is that backup runs would miss the fact container has changed. Maybe one could argue it is a security feature in this scenario :), but as the problem turns out to be unrelated to the crypto case, rather contained in the loop driver itself, it looks like that would not hold. Tvrtko Sophos Plc, The Pentagon, Abingdon Science Park, Abingdon, OX14 3YP, United Kingdom. Company Reg No 2096520. VAT Reg No GB 348 3873 20. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo(a)vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
From: Jens Axboe on 8 Apr 2010 15:40 On Thu, Apr 08 2010, Tvrtko Ursulin wrote: > On Thursday 08 April 2010 13:45:39 Jens Axboe wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 08 2010, Nikanth Karthikesan wrote: > > > Update mtime when writing to backing filesystem using the address space > > > operations write_begin and write_end. > > > > You forgot to include a 'why' :-) > > > > Not that I disagree with the patch, just curious what made you make the > > change. > > You mean how the bug was found? I originally reported this problem against > openSUSE 11.2 kernel, where when you have a dm-crypt loop filesystem the > container file modification time does not get updated with use. Consequence > of that is that backup runs would miss the fact container has changed. > > Maybe one could argue it is a security feature in this scenario :), but as the > problem turns out to be unrelated to the crypto case, rather contained in the > loop driver itself, it looks like that would not hold. :-) I suppose you could update the mtime on tear down, since then it would also be safe to actually backup. But same difference in the end I suppose, I'll add the patch. -- Jens Axboe -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo(a)vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
From: Nikanth Karthikesan on 9 Apr 2010 01:30
On Friday 09 April 2010 01:08:38 Jens Axboe wrote: > On Thu, Apr 08 2010, Tvrtko Ursulin wrote: > > On Thursday 08 April 2010 13:45:39 Jens Axboe wrote: > > > On Thu, Apr 08 2010, Nikanth Karthikesan wrote: > > > > Update mtime when writing to backing filesystem using the address > > > > space operations write_begin and write_end. > > > > > > You forgot to include a 'why' :-) > > > > > > Not that I disagree with the patch, just curious what made you make the > > > change. > > Sorry, for the bad terse changelog. > > You mean how the bug was found? I originally reported this problem > > against openSUSE 11.2 kernel, where when you have a dm-crypt loop > > filesystem the container file modification time does not get updated with > > use. Consequence of that is that backup runs would miss the fact > > container has changed. > > > > Maybe one could argue it is a security feature in this scenario :), but > > as the problem turns out to be unrelated to the crypto case, rather > > contained in the loop driver itself, it looks like that would not hold. > > > :-) > > I suppose you could update the mtime on tear down, since then it would > also be safe to actually backup. But same difference in the end I > suppose, I'll add the patch. > If we update mtime only during tear down, we might miss to backup after a system crash or scenarios where the loop device is not deleted after use during backup. Also when relatime is used, it is better to change mtime on time. :-) Thanks for taking the patch. Thanks Nikanth -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo(a)vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/ |