From: Darklight on 24 Jan 2010 12:43 philo wrote: > ray wrote: >> On Sun, 24 Jan 2010 09:30:39 -0600, philo wrote: >> >>> I had posted a while back concerning setting up some low-end Linux >>> machines.I now have several p-II 333mhz with 128 megs of RAM >>> >>> They will be for a non-profit organization short on funds. The machines >>> will be used by the members >>> strictly for "surfing" the net insure the "work" machines do not get >>> tampered with. >>> >>> I've tried Damn Small Linux and it does the job... except it did not >>> survive an important test: What happens if someone turns the power >>> switch off while the machine is running? >>> >>> >>> Even if using ext3 (rather than ext2) the system fails to boot and fsck >>> must be run manually. I tried it a number of times to confirm and have >>> decided that this will not be a satisfactory solution...and got the same >>> results with Puppy Linux. >>> >>> I did try xubuntu and it recovers fine from a bad shut down...but the >>> machines are too low end to run it properly. >>> >>> >>> The closest I've come so far to getting something that works right is >>> Vector Linux... >>> not sure if the members will like logging in manually ...plus the only >>> way to shut the machine down is by logging in as root or "sudo" from the >>> command line. >>> >>> Suggestions welcome >> >> Have you considered running off the Live CD - that would certainly >> eliminate the power off scenario. BTW - what happens when they do that to >> their MS machines (rhetorical question)? > > > > I've considered a live cd as that's pretty fool proof.. > but the initial startup asks a few questions... > though simple enough...would baffle the users. > > > > I am a bit puzzled why DSL with ext3 does not survive a bad shut down... > the more full Linux distros can handle that fine. can a p11 handle that file system can a p11 handle a ntfs file system.
From: philo on 24 Jan 2010 12:45 EOS wrote: > philo wrote: > >> I had posted a while back concerning setting up some low-end Linux >> machines.I now have several p-II 333mhz with 128 megs of RAM >> >> They will be for a non-profit organization short on funds. The machines >> will be used by the members >> strictly for "surfing" the net insure the "work" machines do not get >> tampered with. >> >> I've tried Damn Small Linux and it does the job... >> except it did not survive an important test: >> What happens if someone turns the power switch off while the machine is >> running? >> >> >> Even if using ext3 (rather than ext2) the system >> fails to boot and fsck must be run manually. I tried it a number of >> times to confirm and have decided that this will not be a satisfactory >> solution...and got the same results with Puppy Linux. >> >> I did try xubuntu and it recovers fine from a bad >> shut down...but the machines are too low end to run it properly. >> >> >> The closest I've come so far to getting something that works right is >> Vector Linux... >> not sure if the members will like logging in manually ...plus >> the only way to shut the machine down is by >> logging in as root or "sudo" from the command line. >> >> Suggestions welcome > > making you're own distro on a basis of SLED or openSUSE > http://susestudio.com/ Thanks for the reply... looks like I managed to get this figured out now. I had been using an older version of Vector Linux as I've always liked Slackware. I never bothered to check first...but they've updated it to version 6 installed it an a p-II-333 with 128 megs of RAM and truth is it runs very well. Nice distro and very easy to setup (at least for anyone who's installed Slackware before)
From: J G Miller on 24 Jan 2010 13:11 On Sun, 24 Jan 2010 11:42:38 -0600, philo wrote: > anyway I've moved on an went with Vector Linux 6 > > if does all I require plus has add'l features I may end up using So have you gone into the /etc/init.d or equivalent directory under Vector Linux and had a look to see if it checks for unclean mounts, and does an fsck automagically?
From: David W. Hodgins on 24 Jan 2010 13:26 On Sun, 24 Jan 2010 11:34:49 -0500, philo <philo(a)privacy.net> wrote: > I am a bit puzzled why DSL with ext3 does not survive a bad shut down... > the more full Linux distros can handle that fine. Try turning off the hard drive write caching. I do, and notice very little difference in performance during normal usage, and haven't had any problems restarting after a power failure since I turned it off. I did have problems with ext3, xfs, and reiserfs, prior to that. $ grep hdparm /etc/rc.d/rc.local hdparm -W 0 /dev/sda hdparm -W 0 /dev/sdb Regards, Dave Hodgins -- Change nomail.afraid.org to ody.ca to reply by email. (nomail.afraid.org has been set up specifically for use in usenet. Feel free to use it yourself.)
From: philo on 24 Jan 2010 15:06
J G Miller wrote: > On Sun, 24 Jan 2010 11:42:38 -0600, philo wrote: >> anyway I've moved on an went with Vector Linux 6 >> >> if does all I require plus has add'l features I may end up using > > So have you gone into the /etc/init.d or equivalent directory under > Vector Linux and had a look to see if it checks for unclean mounts, > and does an fsck automagically? > I have Vector Linux running fine using rfs the problem I was having was with Damn Small Linux and ext3 |