From: Darklight on
philo wrote:

> ray wrote:
>> On Sun, 24 Jan 2010 09:30:39 -0600, philo wrote:
>>
>>> I had posted a while back concerning setting up some low-end Linux
>>> machines.I now have several p-II 333mhz with 128 megs of RAM
>>>
>>> They will be for a non-profit organization short on funds. The machines
>>> will be used by the members
>>> strictly for "surfing" the net insure the "work" machines do not get
>>> tampered with.
>>>
>>> I've tried Damn Small Linux and it does the job... except it did not
>>> survive an important test: What happens if someone turns the power
>>> switch off while the machine is running?
>>>
>>>
>>> Even if using ext3 (rather than ext2) the system fails to boot and fsck
>>> must be run manually. I tried it a number of times to confirm and have
>>> decided that this will not be a satisfactory solution...and got the same
>>> results with Puppy Linux.
>>>
>>> I did try xubuntu and it recovers fine from a bad shut down...but the
>>> machines are too low end to run it properly.
>>>
>>>
>>> The closest I've come so far to getting something that works right is
>>> Vector Linux...
>>> not sure if the members will like logging in manually ...plus the only
>>> way to shut the machine down is by logging in as root or "sudo" from the
>>> command line.
>>>
>>> Suggestions welcome
>>
>> Have you considered running off the Live CD - that would certainly
>> eliminate the power off scenario. BTW - what happens when they do that to
>> their MS machines (rhetorical question)?
>
>
>
> I've considered a live cd as that's pretty fool proof..
> but the initial startup asks a few questions...
> though simple enough...would baffle the users.
>
>
>
> I am a bit puzzled why DSL with ext3 does not survive a bad shut down...
> the more full Linux distros can handle that fine.

can a p11 handle that file system can a p11 handle a ntfs file system.

From: philo on
EOS wrote:
> philo wrote:
>
>> I had posted a while back concerning setting up some low-end Linux
>> machines.I now have several p-II 333mhz with 128 megs of RAM
>>
>> They will be for a non-profit organization short on funds. The machines
>> will be used by the members
>> strictly for "surfing" the net insure the "work" machines do not get
>> tampered with.
>>
>> I've tried Damn Small Linux and it does the job...
>> except it did not survive an important test:
>> What happens if someone turns the power switch off while the machine is
>> running?
>>
>>
>> Even if using ext3 (rather than ext2) the system
>> fails to boot and fsck must be run manually. I tried it a number of
>> times to confirm and have decided that this will not be a satisfactory
>> solution...and got the same results with Puppy Linux.
>>
>> I did try xubuntu and it recovers fine from a bad
>> shut down...but the machines are too low end to run it properly.
>>
>>
>> The closest I've come so far to getting something that works right is
>> Vector Linux...
>> not sure if the members will like logging in manually ...plus
>> the only way to shut the machine down is by
>> logging in as root or "sudo" from the command line.
>>
>> Suggestions welcome
>
> making you're own distro on a basis of SLED or openSUSE
> http://susestudio.com/



Thanks for the reply...

looks like I managed to get this figured out now.

I had been using an older version of Vector Linux
as I've always liked Slackware.

I never bothered to check first...but they've updated it to version 6

installed it an a p-II-333 with 128 megs of RAM

and truth is it runs very well.


Nice distro and very easy to setup

(at least for anyone who's installed Slackware before)
From: J G Miller on
On Sun, 24 Jan 2010 11:42:38 -0600, philo wrote:
> anyway I've moved on an went with Vector Linux 6
>
> if does all I require plus has add'l features I may end up using

So have you gone into the /etc/init.d or equivalent directory under
Vector Linux and had a look to see if it checks for unclean mounts,
and does an fsck automagically?

From: David W. Hodgins on
On Sun, 24 Jan 2010 11:34:49 -0500, philo <philo(a)privacy.net> wrote:

> I am a bit puzzled why DSL with ext3 does not survive a bad shut down...
> the more full Linux distros can handle that fine.

Try turning off the hard drive write caching. I do, and notice very
little difference in performance during normal usage, and haven't
had any problems restarting after a power failure since I turned
it off. I did have problems with ext3, xfs, and reiserfs, prior
to that.

$ grep hdparm /etc/rc.d/rc.local
hdparm -W 0 /dev/sda
hdparm -W 0 /dev/sdb

Regards, Dave Hodgins

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From: philo on
J G Miller wrote:
> On Sun, 24 Jan 2010 11:42:38 -0600, philo wrote:
>> anyway I've moved on an went with Vector Linux 6
>>
>> if does all I require plus has add'l features I may end up using
>
> So have you gone into the /etc/init.d or equivalent directory under
> Vector Linux and had a look to see if it checks for unclean mounts,
> and does an fsck automagically?
>


I have Vector Linux running fine using rfs

the problem I was having was with Damn Small Linux and ext3