From: Grant on 27 Oct 2009 15:11 On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 10:26:00 -0700, Thad Floryan <thad(a)thadlabs.com> wrote: >On 10/27/2009 10:02 AM, Thad Floryan wrote: >> [...] >> The SheevaPlug does have an SD slot and a JTAG connector, too, for debug >> purposes. I only use the external 2.5" HD in the USB enclosure for doing >> compiles (that I don't care to do on another Linux box using the cross- >> development software). > >You may get a kick out of seeing this: > >root(a)debian:~# pwd >/root >root(a)debian:~# ed hw.c ed! I haven't seen that since late '70s ;) They didn't give you vi? >hw.c: No such file or directory >a >#include <stdio.h> >main(){printf("Hello world!\n");} >. >w >53 >q >root(a)debian:~# make hw >cc hw.c -o hw >root(a)debian:~# file hw >hw: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, ARM, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses >shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.16, not stripped >root(a)debian:~# gcc --version >gcc (Ubuntu 4.3.3-5ubuntu4) 4.3.3 >Copyright (C) 2008 Free Software Foundation, Inc. >This is free software; see the source for copying conditions. There is NO >warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. > >root(a)debian:~# ./hw >Hello world! >root(a)debian:~# ll hw* >-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 9554 Oct 27 17:21 hw* >-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 53 Oct 27 17:21 hw.c Now I want one :) Grant. -- http://bugsplatter.id.au
From: jan olieslagers on 27 Oct 2009 15:49 Grant schreef: > > ed! I haven't seen that since late '70s ;) They didn't give you vi? > I remember working in a place where vi was reserved for senior sysadmins. To even mention vim was a no-no, deadly to carreers. Ah, them good old days of ed...
From: Thad Floryan on 27 Oct 2009 17:00 On 10/27/2009 12:11 PM, Grant wrote: > On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 10:26:00 -0700, Thad Floryan <thad(a)thadlabs.com> wrote: > >> On 10/27/2009 10:02 AM, Thad Floryan wrote: >>> [...] >>> The SheevaPlug does have an SD slot and a JTAG connector, too, for debug >>> purposes. I only use the external 2.5" HD in the USB enclosure for doing >>> compiles (that I don't care to do on another Linux box using the cross- >>> development software). >> You may get a kick out of seeing this: >> >> root(a)debian:~# pwd >> /root >> root(a)debian:~# ed hw.c > > ed! I haven't seen that since late '70s ;) They didn't give you vi? > [...] Hah hah! vi is there as is emacs, but it would have been difficult to display its/their output in a Usenet posting. I suppose I could have just used cat and finished with a ^D, but showing that ed still exists is/was useful. :-) ed was important to know how to use back in the early days of UNIX when booting to single-user mode meant using a 5-1/4" floppy without much else being on the floppy than a mini-kernel and a few utils from /sbin and /etc I still have three fully-functional AT&T 3B1 (aka UNIXPC aka PC7300) which run SysVR2 for which a boot floppy has ed on it. Not sure about my old Sun 3/60 systems though -- they booted from tape (when not using disks).
From: Grant on 27 Oct 2009 18:08 On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 14:00:38 -0700, Thad Floryan <thad(a)thadlabs.com> wrote: >On 10/27/2009 12:11 PM, Grant wrote: >> On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 10:26:00 -0700, Thad Floryan <thad(a)thadlabs.com> wrote: >> >>> On 10/27/2009 10:02 AM, Thad Floryan wrote: >>>> [...] >>>> The SheevaPlug does have an SD slot and a JTAG connector, too, for debug >>>> purposes. I only use the external 2.5" HD in the USB enclosure for doing >>>> compiles (that I don't care to do on another Linux box using the cross- >>>> development software). >>> You may get a kick out of seeing this: >>> >>> root(a)debian:~# pwd >>> /root >>> root(a)debian:~# ed hw.c >> >> ed! I haven't seen that since late '70s ;) They didn't give you vi? >> [...] > >Hah hah! vi is there as is emacs, but it would have been difficult to >display its/their output in a Usenet posting. I suppose I could have >just used cat and finished with a ^D, but showing that ed still exists >is/was useful. :-) > >ed was important to know how to use back in the early days of UNIX when >booting to single-user mode meant using a 5-1/4" floppy without much else >being on the floppy than a mini-kernel and a few utils from /sbin and /etc > >I still have three fully-functional AT&T 3B1 (aka UNIXPC aka PC7300) which >run SysVR2 for which a boot floppy has ed on it. Not sure about my old >Sun 3/60 systems though -- they booted from tape (when not using disks). I met ed on cp/m -- was so glad when I found wordstar :) Me not a big iron user. Odd thing was I could read and understand your ed stuff so many decades since seeing it! Grant. -- http://bugsplatter.id.au
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