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From: ikzienietwathierstaat on 16 Jul 2007 10:26 I have done some more trail and error stuff. Connecting the disk (direct ethernet cable) the router and also a pc with a direct ethernet cable there is not a problem. The problem occures when I try to connect the PC with a wireless connection to the router. The disk can not be found (error 000014f and 000013f). Even if I disable wep security, mac-control, virusscanner and firewall can the disk not be found For your information I am using a sirecom WL-018 wirless router (maximum throughput 11M) with Windows XP professional. Can it be that the LPX protocol does not function with a 11M wireless enviroment Any thoughts? "Nik Simpson" <n_simpson(a)bellsouth.net> wrote in message news:ph3mi.5407$O9.2903(a)bignews6.bellsouth.net... > Arno Wagner wrote: > >>> > >> My experience with LPX on a media server that I have is that it's very > >> susceptible to timeouts and congestion, on a clean Ethernet segment it > >> works just fine. My bet is that wireless connection is just not good > >> enough for LPX and the device is timing out. > > > > Now that you mention it: Is this an Ethernet-level protocol? Then > > it may not go past a router anyways, unless the router is configured > > as Ethernet bridge (which usually does not make any sense at all...) > > > > Arno > > > > > No, it's an IP or UDP protocol, so unless the wireless gateway is > blocking the ports it wants to use it shouldn't have trouble going > through the WAP. I found on my system that the connection became > unstable if the network was very busy which suggest that it just doesn't > like a congested or slow network. > > -- > Nik Simpson
From: Arno Wagner on 16 Jul 2007 12:42 Previously ikzienietwathierstaat <abcde(a)fgh.ij> wrote: > I have done some more trail and error stuff. > Connecting the disk (direct ethernet cable) the router and also a pc with a > direct ethernet cable there is not a problem. > The problem occures when I try to connect the PC with a wireless connection Aha! > to the router. The disk can not be found (error 000014f and 000013f). Even > if I disable wep security, mac-control, virusscanner and firewall can the > disk not be found > For your information I am using a sirecom WL-018 wirless router (maximum > throughput 11M) with Windows XP professional. > Can it be that the LPX protocol does not function with a 11M wireless > enviroment > Any thoughts? Given the other information, I am inclined to believe the issue is the slow wireless connection. Wireless is allways several orders of magnitude slower with degard to delay. Throughput is also a lot lower than vendors would have you believe. Typically you get something like 30% of what the vendor states. Arno > "Nik Simpson" <n_simpson(a)bellsouth.net> wrote in message > news:ph3mi.5407$O9.2903(a)bignews6.bellsouth.net... >> Arno Wagner wrote: >> >>> >> >> My experience with LPX on a media server that I have is that it's very >> >> susceptible to timeouts and congestion, on a clean Ethernet segment it >> >> works just fine. My bet is that wireless connection is just not good >> >> enough for LPX and the device is timing out. >> > >> > Now that you mention it: Is this an Ethernet-level protocol? Then >> > it may not go past a router anyways, unless the router is configured >> > as Ethernet bridge (which usually does not make any sense at all...) >> > >> > Arno >> > >> > >> No, it's an IP or UDP protocol, so unless the wireless gateway is >> blocking the ports it wants to use it shouldn't have trouble going >> through the WAP. I found on my system that the connection became >> unstable if the network was very busy which suggest that it just doesn't >> like a congested or slow network. >> >> -- >> Nik Simpson
From: ikzienietwathierstaat on 17 Jul 2007 07:12 thnx, would upgrading to a higher throuput wireless network help, or would you not recomend netdisk in wireless networks at all? "Arno Wagner" <me(a)privacy.net> wrote in message news:5g1lfkF3dlq40U2(a)mid.individual.net... > Previously ikzienietwathierstaat <abcde(a)fgh.ij> wrote: > > I have done some more trail and error stuff. > > > Connecting the disk (direct ethernet cable) the router and also a pc with a > > direct ethernet cable there is not a problem. > > > The problem occures when I try to connect the PC with a wireless connection > > Aha! > > > to the router. The disk can not be found (error 000014f and 000013f). Even > > if I disable wep security, mac-control, virusscanner and firewall can the > > disk not be found > > > For your information I am using a sirecom WL-018 wirless router (maximum > > throughput 11M) with Windows XP professional. > > > Can it be that the LPX protocol does not function with a 11M wireless > > enviroment > > > Any thoughts? > > > Given the other information, I am inclined to believe the issue > is the slow wireless connection. Wireless is allways several orders > of magnitude slower with degard to delay. Throughput is also > a lot lower than vendors would have you believe. Typically > you get something like 30% of what the vendor states. > > Arno > > > > "Nik Simpson" <n_simpson(a)bellsouth.net> wrote in message > > news:ph3mi.5407$O9.2903(a)bignews6.bellsouth.net... > >> Arno Wagner wrote: > >> >>> > >> >> My experience with LPX on a media server that I have is that it's very > >> >> susceptible to timeouts and congestion, on a clean Ethernet segment it > >> >> works just fine. My bet is that wireless connection is just not good > >> >> enough for LPX and the device is timing out. > >> > > >> > Now that you mention it: Is this an Ethernet-level protocol? Then > >> > it may not go past a router anyways, unless the router is configured > >> > as Ethernet bridge (which usually does not make any sense at all...) > >> > > >> > Arno > >> > > >> > > >> No, it's an IP or UDP protocol, so unless the wireless gateway is > >> blocking the ports it wants to use it shouldn't have trouble going > >> through the WAP. I found on my system that the connection became > >> unstable if the network was very busy which suggest that it just doesn't > >> like a congested or slow network. > >> > >> -- > >> Nik Simpson > >
From: Nik Simpson on 17 Jul 2007 08:36 ikzienietwathierstaat wrote: > thnx, would upgrading to a higher throuput wireless network help, or would > you not recomend netdisk in wireless networks at all? > Can't hurt, but not guaranteed to help either. -- Nik Simpson
From: Arno Wagner on 17 Jul 2007 13:43 Previously ikzienietwathierstaat <abcde(a)fgh.ij> wrote: > thnx, would upgrading to a higher throuput wireless network help, or would > you not recomend netdisk in wireless networks at all? Maybe a really fast would help enopugh, but I doubt it. It seems the designers of this protocol messed up badly (a common thing in the industry) by failing to take realistic networking conditions into account. I would advise you to stay with cabled connections. They have far, far superiour properties. Arno > "Arno Wagner" <me(a)privacy.net> wrote in message > news:5g1lfkF3dlq40U2(a)mid.individual.net... >> Previously ikzienietwathierstaat <abcde(a)fgh.ij> wrote: >> > I have done some more trail and error stuff. >> >> > Connecting the disk (direct ethernet cable) the router and also a pc > with a >> > direct ethernet cable there is not a problem. >> >> > The problem occures when I try to connect the PC with a wireless > connection >> >> Aha! >> >> > to the router. The disk can not be found (error 000014f and 000013f). > Even >> > if I disable wep security, mac-control, virusscanner and firewall can > the >> > disk not be found >> >> > For your information I am using a sirecom WL-018 wirless router (maximum >> > throughput 11M) with Windows XP professional. >> >> > Can it be that the LPX protocol does not function with a 11M wireless >> > enviroment >> >> > Any thoughts? >> >> >> Given the other information, I am inclined to believe the issue >> is the slow wireless connection. Wireless is allways several orders >> of magnitude slower with degard to delay. Throughput is also >> a lot lower than vendors would have you believe. Typically >> you get something like 30% of what the vendor states. >> >> Arno >> >> >> > "Nik Simpson" <n_simpson(a)bellsouth.net> wrote in message >> > news:ph3mi.5407$O9.2903(a)bignews6.bellsouth.net... >> >> Arno Wagner wrote: >> >> >>> >> >> >> My experience with LPX on a media server that I have is that it's > very >> >> >> susceptible to timeouts and congestion, on a clean Ethernet segment > it >> >> >> works just fine. My bet is that wireless connection is just not good >> >> >> enough for LPX and the device is timing out. >> >> > >> >> > Now that you mention it: Is this an Ethernet-level protocol? Then >> >> > it may not go past a router anyways, unless the router is configured >> >> > as Ethernet bridge (which usually does not make any sense at all...) >> >> > >> >> > Arno >> >> > >> >> > >> >> No, it's an IP or UDP protocol, so unless the wireless gateway is >> >> blocking the ports it wants to use it shouldn't have trouble going >> >> through the WAP. I found on my system that the connection became >> >> unstable if the network was very busy which suggest that it just > doesn't >> >> like a congested or slow network. >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Nik Simpson >> >>
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