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From: Norbert_Paul on 29 Jun 2010 02:35
Henry wrote:
> On 27 June, 09:21, Xah Lee<xah...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> It is not a good idea to post such things to a news group,
It is not a good idea to read Xah Lee's posts, either.
From: Marc Mientki on 29 Jun 2010 03:25
Am 28.06.2010 20:20, schrieb Xah Lee:

> if you have the right fonts installed, then all the chars on that page
> shows in latest versions of Google Chrome, Firefox, Opera.
>
> they all show in emacs, of course.

Not in my Emacs (23.2.1 on windows XP)

Sorry, but slowly I find your posts as spam. Many of your
proposals look strange for me. This starts with your indentation
and typography of Lisp codes and use of CamelCase, and ends
with your very strange criticism of fundamental values of Emacs.


regards
Marc


From: Xah Lee on 29 Jun 2010 06:04
On Jun 29, 12:25 am, Marc Mientki <mien...(a)nonet.com> wrote:
> Am 28.06.2010 20:20, schrieb Xah Lee:
>
> > if you have the right fonts installed, then all the chars on that page
> > shows in latest versions of Google Chrome, Firefox, Opera.
>
> > they all show in emacs, of course.
>
> Not in my Emacs (23.2.1 on windows XP)

you need to install the fonts first.

http://xahlee.org/emacs/emacs_unicode_fonts.html

> Sorry, but slowly I find your posts as spam.

to the best of your intentions, you probably meant to say you find my
views unorthodox.

> Many of your
> proposals look strange for me. This starts with your indentation
> and typography of Lisp codes and use of CamelCase,

this has been discussed in comp.emacs and gnu.emacs.help newsgroups
several times in the past about 4 years.

to repeat my point of view:

• i don't care much about code-formatting style in the sense people
should sting others just because their code isn't formatted in a
particular way, or in a way comformant to whatever lose guides the
language's official documentation may advice. In fact, i consider the
habit of thinking about code formatting being a major time drain, and
inhibit progress in computer languages. You can ready many articles on
my site that discuss this, under the formatting section here:
http://xahlee.org/Periodic_dosage_dir/comp_lang.html

• i often use camelCase in my elisp code because i find it easier to
distinguish my own variables from emacs lisp's built-in ones. In
particular, due to the fact that the emacs-lisp-mode does not do
syntax color fully. See:

• Emacs Lisp Mode Syntax Coloring Problem
http://xahlee.org/emacs/modernization_elisp_syntax_color.html

> and ends
> with your very strange criticism of fundamental values of Emacs.

Right. Thanks for your opinion. It is controversial. I'll nitpick your
phrasing a bit. My criticism really isn't about “fundamental values”
of emacs, but mostly about its interface. You might think that emacs's
interface being its fundamental value... but to me the fundamental
value of emacs goes far more than its interface, in fact i consider
its interface has little value today. Perhaps that's where we
disagree.

• Emacs Modernization
http://xahlee.org/emacs/emacs_modernization.html

to discuss on emacs further, perhaps we can narrow the cross posting
to just comp.emacs.

Xah
∑ http://xahlee.org/

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