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From: kobiianardo on 6 Apr 2010 13:29 Hello new here with a newbie problem, I've been told to move everything from an old file server to a new machine, or from a computer with server 2k3 SBS to a new computer with server 2k8. I'm not a computer/network person at all, but this is what I've been told to do, so I'm having major problems. If anyone can help or knows a better place to post this to get helped please tell me. What's needed: I was told that we want the new machine to act as a file server where people can get/share their stuff. The new server would have different permissions set up for different people/users i suppose. we have about ~15 people that access the new server and 2 printers. And after all that's done, I'd need to install VPN on this server thing. hmm... I need to ask how the people are using the old server and redirect their computers to use the new file server in the same way. Current Setup: I'm REALLY fussy on what the old server does, but from what I can see, our old server is set up this way: we have a T1 line comming in and it hits a firewall machine thing and then a switch that spread out all over the place, one of which is the old server, and another is the new server. Right now on our setup, there's a workgroup (or domain thing i dont know the difference) setup called something like "Company.intra" that requires a log-in to access the available resources. On the new server under Network Sharing center says my computer is connected to the internet like this "35WERWER(the new server's name) --- Company.intra --- internet" Questions: 0) Bascially: how the heck do i do this? at times it seemed really simple, if i could just copy all the old files from the old server, set-up different passwords for different shared-folders and have people use that. But I dont know if that's the best way to do about things, and i really understand what that ".intra" thing means for a workgroup. 1) What sort of workgroup/domain do i need to setup or inherit from the old server to get the "What's needed" sharing structure. 2) Of the roles available from Server 2k8 what do i need to achieve this? do i need DHCP? DNS? Active Domain? 3) Does setting up VPN require IIS? <--- i dont get this question but i needed to find out. 4) Are there any security issues involved with me posting stuff like this on the internet? i've been working on this for like a week and really made no progress~ help please thanks a bunch, kobiianardo p.s. there's a similar thread http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windows.server.general/browse_thread/thread/3b0ec8ab04bdae70/169e401194b0c2a7?lnk=gst&q=migrating+new+hardware#169e401194b0c2a7 but i think the person asking is more advanced than i am.
From: Danny Sanders on 6 Apr 2010 16:10 Before we can answer your question, we would need to know if you are on a domain or workgroup? Properties of my computer - computer name tab. Is the SBS server a domain controller? How many DCs are on the domain? Do you want to use the Win 2k8 server as a file server on a Win 2k3 SBS domain or in the end is this going to be a Win 2k8 domain with teh Win 2k3 SBS DC removed? DDS "kobiianardo" <kobiianardo(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:787c26c7-7dd9-4e3e-b93a-cf8625bd58e1(a)r27g2000yqn.googlegroups.com... > Hello new here with a newbie problem, > I've been told to move everything from an old file server to a new > machine, or from a computer with server 2k3 SBS to a new computer with > server 2k8. I'm not a computer/network person at all, but this is what > I've been told to do, so I'm having major problems. If anyone can help > or knows a better place to post this to get helped please tell me. > > What's needed: I was told that we want the new machine to act as a > file server where people can get/share their stuff. The new server > would have different permissions set up for different people/users i > suppose. we have about ~15 people that access the new server and 2 > printers. And after all that's done, I'd need to install VPN on this > server thing. hmm... I need to ask how the people are using the old > server and redirect their computers to use the new file server in the > same way. > > Current Setup: > I'm REALLY fussy on what the old server does, but from what I can see, > our old server is set up this way: we have a T1 line comming in and it > hits a firewall machine thing and then a switch that spread out all > over the place, one of which is the old server, and another is the new > server. Right now on our setup, there's a workgroup (or domain thing i > dont know the difference) setup called something like "Company.intra" > that requires a log-in to access the available resources. On the new > server under Network Sharing center says my computer is connected to > the internet like this "35WERWER(the new server's name) --- > Company.intra --- internet" > > Questions: > 0) Bascially: how the heck do i do this? at times it seemed really > simple, if i could just copy all the old files from the old server, > set-up different passwords for different shared-folders and have > people use that. But I dont know if that's the best way to do about > things, and i really understand what that ".intra" thing means for a > workgroup. > 1) What sort of workgroup/domain do i need to setup or inherit from > the old server to get the "What's needed" sharing structure. > 2) Of the roles available from Server 2k8 what do i need to achieve > this? do i need DHCP? DNS? Active Domain? > 3) Does setting up VPN require IIS? <--- i dont get this question but > i needed to find out. > 4) Are there any security issues involved with me posting stuff like > this on the internet? > > i've been working on this for like a week and really made no progress~ > help please > > > thanks a bunch, > kobiianardo > > > p.s. there's a similar thread > http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windows.server.general/browse_thread/thread/3b0ec8ab04bdae70/169e401194b0c2a7?lnk=gst&q=migrating+new+hardware#169e401194b0c2a7 > but i think the person asking is more advanced than i am.
From: kobiianardo on 6 Apr 2010 17:42 Hihi, A1) I think we are on a domain. (the new server is online right now but not in the domain yet) A2) The old computer is a domain controller i think, computer properties says "Domain: CompanyName.intra", and when i clicked "change" it says "domain controllers cannot be moved from one domain to another...etc, etc" A3) There's only one DC on the domain i hope. (but it seems like random people have random workgroups setup that nobody else can access, we wish to eliminate that if possible) A4) not sure how to answer this one, but: 2k3 SBS DC and the old computer it's on = dont want 2k8 on new computer = want to keep and share files transferred from old computer. I'm not sure what the benefits of keeping the old domain and its structures are or the requirements of creating a new one. yea sorry the guy who set it up disappeared and the 2nd guy who took over died earlier this year so things are kindda confusing. thanks a bunch for replying!! kobiianardo On Apr 6, 1:10 pm, "Danny Sanders" <dsand...(a)NOSPAMbrakesplus.com> wrote: > Before we can answer your question, we would need to know if you are on a > domain or workgroup? Properties of my computer - computer name tab. > > Is the SBS server a domain controller? > How many DCs are on the domain? > Do you want to use the Win 2k8 server as a file server on a Win 2k3 SBS > domain or in the end is this going to be a Win 2k8 domain with teh Win 2k3 > SBS DC removed? > > DDS > > "kobiianardo" <kobiiana...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > > news:787c26c7-7dd9-4e3e-b93a-cf8625bd58e1(a)r27g2000yqn.googlegroups.com... > > > Hello new here with a newbie problem, > > I've been told to move everything from an old file server to a new > > machine, or from a computer with server 2k3 SBS to a new computer with > > server 2k8. I'm not a computer/network person at all, but this is what > > I've been told to do, so I'm having major problems. If anyone can help > > or knows a better place to post this to get helped please tell me. > > > What's needed: I was told that we want the new machine to act as a > > file server where people can get/share their stuff. The new server > > would have different permissions set up for different people/users i > > suppose. we have about ~15 people that access the new server and 2 > > printers. And after all that's done, I'd need to install VPN on this > > server thing. hmm... I need to ask how the people are using the old > > server and redirect their computers to use the new file server in the > > same way. > > > Current Setup: > > I'm REALLY fussy on what the old server does, but from what I can see, > > our old server is set up this way: we have a T1 line comming in and it > > hits a firewall machine thing and then a switch that spread out all > > over the place, one of which is the old server, and another is the new > > server. Right now on our setup, there's a workgroup (or domain thing i > > dont know the difference) setup called something like "Company.intra" > > that requires a log-in to access the available resources. On the new > > server under Network Sharing center says my computer is connected to > > the internet like this "35WERWER(the new server's name) --- > > Company.intra --- internet" > > > Questions: > > 0) Bascially: how the heck do i do this? at times it seemed really > > simple, if i could just copy all the old files from the old server, > > set-up different passwords for different shared-folders and have > > people use that. But I dont know if that's the best way to do about > > things, and i really understand what that ".intra" thing means for a > > workgroup. > > 1) What sort of workgroup/domain do i need to setup or inherit from > > the old server to get the "What's needed" sharing structure. > > 2) Of the roles available from Server 2k8 what do i need to achieve > > this? do i need DHCP? DNS? Active Domain? > > 3) Does setting up VPN require IIS? <--- i dont get this question but > > i needed to find out. > > 4) Are there any security issues involved with me posting stuff like > > this on the internet? > > > i've been working on this for like a week and really made no progress~ > > help please > > > thanks a bunch, > > kobiianardo > > > p.s. there's a similar thread > >http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windows.server.genera... > > but i think the person asking is more advanced than i am.
From: Danny Sanders on 6 Apr 2010 17:56 It sounds like you have a Win 2k3 SBS domain that you want to migrate to a Win2k8 domain. You should research the pros and cons of "migrating" to a new domain and "upgrading" your existing domain to Win 2k8 and decommissioning the SBS server. BUT with SBS in the mix you should really ask this question in the microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs news group. There are limitations with SBS that I am not familiar with that they can help with. hth DDS "kobiianardo" <kobiianardo(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:aec1d173-c186-46ef-9efd-9bc962226425(a)e7g2000yqf.googlegroups.com... Hihi, A1) I think we are on a domain. (the new server is online right now but not in the domain yet) A2) The old computer is a domain controller i think, computer properties says "Domain: CompanyName.intra", and when i clicked "change" it says "domain controllers cannot be moved from one domain to another...etc, etc" A3) There's only one DC on the domain i hope. (but it seems like random people have random workgroups setup that nobody else can access, we wish to eliminate that if possible) A4) not sure how to answer this one, but: 2k3 SBS DC and the old computer it's on = dont want 2k8 on new computer = want to keep and share files transferred from old computer. I'm not sure what the benefits of keeping the old domain and its structures are or the requirements of creating a new one. yea sorry the guy who set it up disappeared and the 2nd guy who took over died earlier this year so things are kindda confusing. thanks a bunch for replying!! kobiianardo On Apr 6, 1:10 pm, "Danny Sanders" <dsand...(a)NOSPAMbrakesplus.com> wrote: > Before we can answer your question, we would need to know if you are on a > domain or workgroup? Properties of my computer - computer name tab. > > Is the SBS server a domain controller? > How many DCs are on the domain? > Do you want to use the Win 2k8 server as a file server on a Win 2k3 SBS > domain or in the end is this going to be a Win 2k8 domain with teh Win 2k3 > SBS DC removed? > > DDS > > "kobiianardo" <kobiiana...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > > news:787c26c7-7dd9-4e3e-b93a-cf8625bd58e1(a)r27g2000yqn.googlegroups.com... > > > Hello new here with a newbie problem, > > I've been told to move everything from an old file server to a new > > machine, or from a computer with server 2k3 SBS to a new computer with > > server 2k8. I'm not a computer/network person at all, but this is what > > I've been told to do, so I'm having major problems. If anyone can help > > or knows a better place to post this to get helped please tell me. > > > What's needed: I was told that we want the new machine to act as a > > file server where people can get/share their stuff. The new server > > would have different permissions set up for different people/users i > > suppose. we have about ~15 people that access the new server and 2 > > printers. And after all that's done, I'd need to install VPN on this > > server thing. hmm... I need to ask how the people are using the old > > server and redirect their computers to use the new file server in the > > same way. > > > Current Setup: > > I'm REALLY fussy on what the old server does, but from what I can see, > > our old server is set up this way: we have a T1 line comming in and it > > hits a firewall machine thing and then a switch that spread out all > > over the place, one of which is the old server, and another is the new > > server. Right now on our setup, there's a workgroup (or domain thing i > > dont know the difference) setup called something like "Company.intra" > > that requires a log-in to access the available resources. On the new > > server under Network Sharing center says my computer is connected to > > the internet like this "35WERWER(the new server's name) --- > > Company.intra --- internet" > > > Questions: > > 0) Bascially: how the heck do i do this? at times it seemed really > > simple, if i could just copy all the old files from the old server, > > set-up different passwords for different shared-folders and have > > people use that. But I dont know if that's the best way to do about > > things, and i really understand what that ".intra" thing means for a > > workgroup. > > 1) What sort of workgroup/domain do i need to setup or inherit from > > the old server to get the "What's needed" sharing structure. > > 2) Of the roles available from Server 2k8 what do i need to achieve > > this? do i need DHCP? DNS? Active Domain? > > 3) Does setting up VPN require IIS? <--- i dont get this question but > > i needed to find out. > > 4) Are there any security issues involved with me posting stuff like > > this on the internet? > > > i've been working on this for like a week and really made no progress~ > > help please > > > thanks a bunch, > > kobiianardo > > > p.s. there's a similar thread > >http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windows.server.genera... > > but i think the person asking is more advanced than i am.
From: Leythos on 6 Apr 2010 20:20
In article <#NRl2Wc1KHA.3588(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>, dsanders(a)NOSPAMbrakesplus.com says... > Is the SBS server a domain controller? > SBS servers can and must be domain controllers, that's the only way they can be installed. -- You can't trust your best friends, your five senses, only the little voice inside you that most civilians don't even hear -- Listen to that. Trust yourself. spam999free(a)rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address) |