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From: Richard B. Gilbert on 10 May 2010 20:29
Colin B. wrote:
> Richard B. Gilbert <rgilbert88(a)comcast.net> wrote:
>
> (snip)
>
>> I'm sure there must be people who do "tailored" installations. I never
>> have. Even ten years ago, disk space was relatively cheap; certainly
>> cheaper than the several hours of my time it would have taken to do a
>> tailored installation and then, later, add pieces.
>>
>> Adding "SUNWGLOTZ" requires not only installing it but also finding all
>> the the things it depends upon and then installing all those
>> dependencies as well! Then you must identify and install or reinstall
>> all the applicable patches. It can be done but doing it that way costs
>> far more in terms of my time and system down time than simply installing
>> everything to begin with!
>
> Where I work, we do custom 'tailored' installations, a decision that
> predates me by a long shot. The standard model here is "minimal install
> plus necessary extras." This reduces the build time, maintenance time and
> complexity, and potential security holes. However, it's a pain to develop
> a 'just enough' model for every new application that comes down the pipe.
>
> On the other hand, Oracle's install clusters are flat-out...wrong! Why
> would you install StarOffice on anything other than full installs? Why
> wouldn't a "required packages, fully networked" (i.e. core) install
> include ssh?
>
> That's right, there is NO install cluster that includes ssh (client OR
> server) but excludes StarOffice, Gnome desktop, firefox, mozilla,
> thunderbird, etc.. bash and zsh are also absent from the 'core' install,
> and tcsh doesn't get added until the "entire" cluster is selected.
>
> This is all nicely summarized in the docs, thankfully:
> http://docs.sun.com/app/docs/doc/821-0435/eezdz?l=en&a=view
>
> If I were to start with a blank slate, I would begin with everything,
> and remove what I didn't want, via the metapackages. That is, install
> SUNWCXall, and then delete SUNWCstaroffice, and so forth.
>
> Where do you find the list of metapackages? It is helpfully documented...
> NOWHERE!!!! So pay attention here folks, because this isn't something
> you'll easily find on your own:
>
> On the DVD, look in Solaris_10/Product/.clustertoc and you will find
> each of the 'packages of packages' which describe a product. If you're
> using JET for installing, you can stuff these into the
> "base_config_profile_del_clusters" variable, and save yourself a lot of
> grief trying to track down the individual packages for each product (11
> for staroffice, I believe!).
>
> I would love to install a single supported bundle from Oracle/Sun, but
> they don't exist except for standalone (i.e. not-networked!) servers
> and user workstations, which means either customization, or a workstation
> for every server.
>
> Cheers,
> Colin
>

ISTR that in the "Advanced Installation Manual" (or similar title) there
was a list of packages and what they install. Or maybe a list of
applications and which packages are required to install them. I think
it was present in S9. I've just taken a quick peek at the S8 and S9
manuals and I can't find it. I'm sure there was such a thing but it may
take me a few days to figure out where they hid it.

I normally just install everything. Disk space is not a consideration
and since I'm both the administrator and sole user there is no need to
conceal, disable, or remove things that I don't want others using.
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