news link in OE6 won't work with x-usc: prefix
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From: Gene3 on 15 Sep 2009 01:03 I thought this was a forum interested in such facts. It looks like I was wrong. Good bye. --Gene3 "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:uXNO0z3MKHA.220(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > [And another hoople-head joins the fray...] > > Gene3 wrote: >> The bug occurs with Windows Live Mail and Vista. It has nothing to do >> with >> Outlook, Outlook Express, or other mail/newsreader clients except that >> they >> (all of them) find such URLs dead, inactive because of the spurious >> x-usc: >> prefix. You can google for yourself and read about it, searchstring: >> "x-usc >> windows mail vista". >> >> "N. Miller" <anonymous(a)msnews.aosake.net> wrote in message >> news:1r0ad3m996dhn.dlg(a)msnews.aosake.net... >>> On Tue, 8 Sep 2009 05:10:47 -0500, Gene3 wrote: >>> >>>> To answer my own question: I did quite a bit of googling, and >>>> discovered >>>> that reports of this bug started over 2 years ago. So MS has ample time >>>> to >>>> become aware of it, and their response is apparently to ignore it and >>>> hope >>>> it will go away. :) Or maybe they just don't care. The evolution of >>>> windows >>>> software has perhaps become too top heavy... >>> >>> Does this bug exist in Windows Live Mail, or MS Outlook 2007? Even if >>> the >>> bug were discovered two years ago, it will never be addressed in MS >>> Outlook >>> Express because development stopped well over two years ago. Even >>> Windows >>> Mail (the Vista client, and different from Windows Live Mail) is older >>> than >>> that discovery date for the bug; as is MS Outlook 2003. >>> >>> -- >>> Norman >>> ~Oh Lord, why have you come >>> ~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum >
From: N. Miller on 15 Sep 2009 02:22 "Gene3" <Gene3(a)not.valid> wrote in message news:ejfX7m%23FKHA.3696(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > The news link displays normally in OE6: > news://newsserver/newsgroup > Looking at its source code, that is exactly how it appears in the source > code as well, no extra characters or prefix. However the link is dead when > clicked, it goes nowhere. The reason is that apparently a x-usc: prefix > appears out of the blue for unknown reasons, so when hovering the mouse > over > the link it appears in the OE6 status bar as follows: > x-usc:news://newsserver/newsgroup > Where does the mysterious x-usc: prefix come from, why, and how can it be > fixed? I can't replicate that finding in MSOE (not even going to try to run MSOE on Windows Vista; that is not a normal configuration). When I view your link in MSOE6, I see a blue highlighted 'hotlink'. When I hover the mouse over the link, my MSOE6 status bar shows that link exactly as it appears in your article. There is no 'x-usc:' address type prefixed. -- Norman ~Oh Lord, why have you come ~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum
From: N. Miller on 15 Sep 2009 02:38 "Gene3" <Gene3(a)not.valid> wrote in message news:ejfX7m%23FKHA.3696(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > The news link displays normally in OE6: > news://newsserver/newsgroup > Looking at its source code, that is exactly how it appears in the source > code as well, no extra characters or prefix. However the link is dead when > clicked, it goes nowhere. The reason is that apparently a x-usc: prefix > appears out of the blue for unknown reasons, so when hovering the mouse > over > the link it appears in the OE6 status bar as follows: > x-usc:news://newsserver/newsgroup > Where does the mysterious x-usc: prefix come from, why, and how can it be > fixed? Yes, it is I, again. Windows Mail on Windows Vista; SP2. When I hover over your link, the status bar does not show the 'x-usc:' address type. Here is the result of a "copy shortcut": news://newsserver/newsgroup Exactly as you posted it. -- Norman ~Oh Lord, why have you come ~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum
From: N. Miller on 15 Sep 2009 02:50 Gene3 wrote: > The news link displays normally in OE6: > news://newsserver/newsgroup > Looking at its source code, that is exactly how it appears in the source > code as well, no extra characters or prefix. However the link is dead when > clicked, it goes nowhere. The reason is that apparently a x-usc: prefix > appears out of the blue for unknown reasons, so when hovering the mouse over > the link it appears in the OE6 status bar as follows: > x-usc:news://newsserver/newsgroup > Where does the mysterious x-usc: prefix come from, why, and how can it be > fixed? One more time. Using Mozilla Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 on Windows Vista; SP2. Your link displays properly in the status bar. I can even copy it, thus: news://newsserver/newsgroup I am now three for three, unable to induce a client to show the 'x-usc:' address type. -- Norman ~Oh Lord, why have you come ~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum
From: N. Miller on 15 Sep 2009 03:16
On Fri, 11 Sep 2009 20:15:01 -0500, Gene3 wrote: > The bug occurs with Windows Live Mail and Vista. It has nothing to do with > Outlook, Outlook Express, or other mail/newsreader clients ... Interesting. Your OP "Subject:" mentions Outlook Express ("Re: news link in OE6 won't work with x-usc: prefix"), yet you now say it has nothing to do with MSOE? Also, FYI, Outlook is an email client and PIM; no news capability, other than to invoke MSOE, and, maybe, any other client with news reader capability. > ... except that they (all of them) find such URLs dead, inactive because of > the spurious x-usc: prefix. I have tried: MS Outlook Express, on Windows XP MCE 2005; SP3. My followup is found as, 'Message-ID: <ezQ$3zcNKHA.4700(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>'. Windows Mail, on Windows Vista; SP2. My followup is found as, 'Message-ID: <#lUhd8cNKHA.220(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>'. Mozilla Thunderbird 2.0.0.23, on Windows Vista; SP2. My followup is found as, 'Message-ID: <4AAF3925.9030301(a)msnews.aosake.net>'. With those three clients, on those to OSes, I am zero for three trying to induce the 'x-usc:' address type to show in a link. > You can google for yourself and read about it, > searchstring: "x-usc windows mail vista". I see. You're original problem statement does not include a full description of what is happening. The problem only happens in Windows Mail. Using the 40tude Dialog (my newsreader) search function, the reader can't find "Windows Mail" mentioned in your original problem statement. Sorry, I have no way to find out what you omitted to include in your problem statement. Your lack of clarity is a large part of why I am having trouble understanding what is happening. So, you copied a link, and then pasted it, while using Windows Mail. Let me check my articles again ... Relevant headers from the relevant article: | Subject: Re: news link in OE6 won't work with x-usc: prefix | Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 23:38:09 -0700 | Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response | Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit | X-Newsreader: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18005 | Message-ID: <#lUhd8cNKHA.220(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl> | Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress Ah, but I am not posting to NNTP with HTML enabled. I wonder if enabling HTML has something to do with the problem? At this point I am too lazy to research this further. Your Google search turns up a work around. Unfortunately, Windows Mail is as dead as MS Outlook Express; any bugs are likely permanent, unless they are a critical security issue. For future reference, when discussing problems with Windows Mail, instead of posting a help request in an MS Outlook Express group, you would do well to post to a Windows Mail help group: news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.windows.vista.mail And I am also too lazy to research if the bug has carried over into Windows Live Mail; currently the only free mail&news client offered by Microsoft. -- Norman ~Oh Lord, why have you come ~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum |