From: Suzanne S. Barnhill on 1 May 2010 09:31 FWIW, you can use Multiple line spacing, which does adjust to the point size of the text. This allows you to set something between 1 and 1.5; it also (though this is not obvious) allows you to set less than one line: I often back off to .99 or .98 lines to fit copy. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Terry Farrell" <terryfarrell(a)msn.com> wrote in message news:OnEUCiR6KHA.4940(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > Doug > > The problem I see with the Line and Paragraph Spacing button is that it > only shows the tick mark against the line spacing setting if you use Line > units. If you set (like all good Word users should use) to use the At > Least XX pts, the Line Spacing tick doesn't work (because it only works in > Line Units and not in Points). > > I would never use a fixed line height because sometimes ascenders or > descenders can be chopped and I find 1 line too little and 1.5 lines too > much, so it is a pretty useless feature. Perhaps a suggestion for the next > release would be to make the units dynamic with the settings used! > > I only recently discovered the Spacing Before and Spacing After buttons, > but I now have the Spacing After permanently on my QAT. > > Terry > > "Doug Robbins - Word MVP" <dkr(a)REMOVECAPSmvps.org> wrote in message > news:O9NeNqM6KHA.4508(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >> In both Word 2007 and Word 2010 there is a Line and Paragraph Spacing >> button in the Paragraph section of the Ribbon. If you click on it, it >> will show the spacing of the selected paragraph by a tick against the >> 1.0, 1.15, 1.5, 2.0, 2.5 or 3.0. It also has a button that will take you >> to the Format Paragraph dialog and buttons to Add (or Remove if it is >> there already) Space Before or After the paragraph. >> >> -- >> Hope this helps. >> >> Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my >> services on a paid consulting basis. >> >> Doug Robbins - Word MVP, originally posted via msnews.microsoft.com >> >> "Terry Farrell" <terryfarrell(a)msn.com> wrote in message >> news:OSon$4K6KHA.5016(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>> Well there is in Word 2010 but I am unable to check if this is available >>> in Word 2007. >>> >>> Use the Customise Quick Access Toolbar (QAT) option and choose All >>> Commands. Scroll down the list of command and you will find >>> >>> Spacing Before >>> Spacing After >>> >>> Add them to your QAT. Now as you click in a paragraph, the little boxes >>> on the QAT will display the current setting. I hope that is the same for >>> Word 2007. >>> >>> -- >>> Terry Farrell - MSWord MVP > > >
From: Pamelia Caswell via OfficeKB.com on 1 May 2010 11:21 Ohhhhhh, so "multiple" is like em in HTML css (cascading style sheets) —supposedly very handy and user-setup friendly since relative font size and spacing specified by em could still be applied when the user specifies a different. Why don't they tell us this stuff? Here I thought "multiple" was another MS misnomer. But, is "multiple" based on the point size of the font alone or on the point size plus leading (in Word 120% of the point size)? Pam Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote: >FWIW, you can use Multiple line spacing, which does adjust to the point size >of the text. This allows you to set something between 1 and 1.5; it also >(though this is not obvious) allows you to set less than one line: I often >back off to .99 or .98 lines to fit copy. > >> Doug >> >[quoted text clipped - 33 lines] >>>> on the QAT will display the current setting. I hope that is the same for >>>> Word 2007. -- Message posted via OfficeKB.com http://www.officekb.com/Uwe/Forums.aspx/ms-word-general/201005/1
From: Terry Farrell on 1 May 2010 11:29 Ah. So although 1, 1.5, 2, etc is shown as the progression, you can actually specify 'At Least 1.35 li'. It converts 1.35 Li to 16.25 pts and the Line Spacing button still doesn't tick the setting. Terry "Suzanne S. Barnhill" <sbarnhill(a)mvps.org> wrote in message news:OxRLOPT6KHA.5808(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > FWIW, you can use Multiple line spacing, which does adjust to the point > size of the text. This allows you to set something between 1 and 1.5; it > also (though this is not obvious) allows you to set less than one line: I > often back off to .99 or .98 lines to fit copy. > > -- > Suzanne S. Barnhill > Microsoft MVP (Word) > Words into Type > Fairhope, Alabama USA > http://word.mvps.org > > "Terry Farrell" <terryfarrell(a)msn.com> wrote in message > news:OnEUCiR6KHA.4940(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> Doug >> >> The problem I see with the Line and Paragraph Spacing button is that it >> only shows the tick mark against the line spacing setting if you use Line >> units. If you set (like all good Word users should use) to use the At >> Least XX pts, the Line Spacing tick doesn't work (because it only works >> in Line Units and not in Points). >> >> I would never use a fixed line height because sometimes ascenders or >> descenders can be chopped and I find 1 line too little and 1.5 lines too >> much, so it is a pretty useless feature. Perhaps a suggestion for the >> next release would be to make the units dynamic with the settings used! >> >> I only recently discovered the Spacing Before and Spacing After buttons, >> but I now have the Spacing After permanently on my QAT. >> >> Terry >> >> "Doug Robbins - Word MVP" <dkr(a)REMOVECAPSmvps.org> wrote in message >> news:O9NeNqM6KHA.4508(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >>> In both Word 2007 and Word 2010 there is a Line and Paragraph Spacing >>> button in the Paragraph section of the Ribbon. If you click on it, it >>> will show the spacing of the selected paragraph by a tick against the >>> 1.0, 1.15, 1.5, 2.0, 2.5 or 3.0. It also has a button that will take >>> you to the Format Paragraph dialog and buttons to Add (or Remove if it >>> is there already) Space Before or After the paragraph. >>> >>> -- >>> Hope this helps. >>> >>> Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my >>> services on a paid consulting basis. >>> >>> Doug Robbins - Word MVP, originally posted via msnews.microsoft.com >>> >>> "Terry Farrell" <terryfarrell(a)msn.com> wrote in message >>> news:OSon$4K6KHA.5016(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>>> Well there is in Word 2010 but I am unable to check if this is >>>> available in Word 2007. >>>> >>>> Use the Customise Quick Access Toolbar (QAT) option and choose All >>>> Commands. Scroll down the list of command and you will find >>>> >>>> Spacing Before >>>> Spacing After >>>> >>>> Add them to your QAT. Now as you click in a paragraph, the little boxes >>>> on the QAT will display the current setting. I hope that is the same >>>> for Word 2007. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Terry Farrell - MSWord MVP >> >> >> >
From: Suzanne S. Barnhill on 1 May 2010 11:50 Multiple is based on "single," which includes the leading. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Pamelia Caswell via OfficeKB.com" <u43222(a)uwe> wrote in message news:a75bc23e2a024(a)uwe... > Ohhhhhh, so "multiple" is like em in HTML css (cascading style sheets) > —supposedly very handy and user-setup friendly since relative font size > and > spacing specified by em could still be applied when the user specifies a > different. > > Why don't they tell us this stuff? Here I thought "multiple" was another > MS > misnomer. > > But, is "multiple" based on the point size of the font alone or on the > point > size plus leading (in Word 120% of the point size)? > > Pam > > Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote: >>FWIW, you can use Multiple line spacing, which does adjust to the point >>size >>of the text. This allows you to set something between 1 and 1.5; it also >>(though this is not obvious) allows you to set less than one line: I often >>back off to .99 or .98 lines to fit copy. >> >>> Doug >>> >>[quoted text clipped - 33 lines] >>>>> on the QAT will display the current setting. I hope that is the same >>>>> for >>>>> Word 2007. > > -- > Message posted via OfficeKB.com > http://www.officekb.com/Uwe/Forums.aspx/ms-word-general/201005/1 > >
From: Suzanne S. Barnhill on 1 May 2010 11:51 No, "At least" is always in points; "Multiple" is in lines, based on "Single," so it changes with the point size of the text. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Terry Farrell" <terryfarrell(a)msn.com> wrote in message news:e5%23vIMU6KHA.1924(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > Ah. So although 1, 1.5, 2, etc is shown as the progression, you can > actually specify 'At Least 1.35 li'. It converts 1.35 Li to 16.25 pts and > the Line Spacing button still doesn't tick the setting. > > Terry > > "Suzanne S. Barnhill" <sbarnhill(a)mvps.org> wrote in message > news:OxRLOPT6KHA.5808(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >> FWIW, you can use Multiple line spacing, which does adjust to the point >> size of the text. This allows you to set something between 1 and 1.5; it >> also (though this is not obvious) allows you to set less than one line: I >> often back off to .99 or .98 lines to fit copy. >> >> -- >> Suzanne S. Barnhill >> Microsoft MVP (Word) >> Words into Type >> Fairhope, Alabama USA >> http://word.mvps.org >> >> "Terry Farrell" <terryfarrell(a)msn.com> wrote in message >> news:OnEUCiR6KHA.4940(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>> Doug >>> >>> The problem I see with the Line and Paragraph Spacing button is that it >>> only shows the tick mark against the line spacing setting if you use >>> Line units. If you set (like all good Word users should use) to use the >>> At Least XX pts, the Line Spacing tick doesn't work (because it only >>> works in Line Units and not in Points). >>> >>> I would never use a fixed line height because sometimes ascenders or >>> descenders can be chopped and I find 1 line too little and 1.5 lines too >>> much, so it is a pretty useless feature. Perhaps a suggestion for the >>> next release would be to make the units dynamic with the settings used! >>> >>> I only recently discovered the Spacing Before and Spacing After buttons, >>> but I now have the Spacing After permanently on my QAT. >>> >>> Terry >>> >>> "Doug Robbins - Word MVP" <dkr(a)REMOVECAPSmvps.org> wrote in message >>> news:O9NeNqM6KHA.4508(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >>>> In both Word 2007 and Word 2010 there is a Line and Paragraph Spacing >>>> button in the Paragraph section of the Ribbon. If you click on it, it >>>> will show the spacing of the selected paragraph by a tick against the >>>> 1.0, 1.15, 1.5, 2.0, 2.5 or 3.0. It also has a button that will take >>>> you to the Format Paragraph dialog and buttons to Add (or Remove if it >>>> is there already) Space Before or After the paragraph. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Hope this helps. >>>> >>>> Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my >>>> services on a paid consulting basis. >>>> >>>> Doug Robbins - Word MVP, originally posted via msnews.microsoft.com >>>> >>>> "Terry Farrell" <terryfarrell(a)msn.com> wrote in message >>>> news:OSon$4K6KHA.5016(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>>>> Well there is in Word 2010 but I am unable to check if this is >>>>> available in Word 2007. >>>>> >>>>> Use the Customise Quick Access Toolbar (QAT) option and choose All >>>>> Commands. Scroll down the list of command and you will find >>>>> >>>>> Spacing Before >>>>> Spacing After >>>>> >>>>> Add them to your QAT. Now as you click in a paragraph, the little >>>>> boxes on the QAT will display the current setting. I hope that is the >>>>> same for Word 2007. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Terry Farrell - MSWord MVP >>> >>> >>> >>
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