From: Andres Freund on
On Monday 28 December 2009 22:30:44 matt wrote:
> Is there some way to export the postgresql query parse tree in XML format?
> I can not locate the API/Tool etc to do that...
Thats more of a -general question.

There is no such possibility in 8.4 - the not yet released 8.5 contains such a
possibility.

Andres

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From: Robert Haas on
On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 7:32 PM, Andres Freund <andres(a)anarazel.de> wrote:
> On Monday 28 December 2009 22:30:44 matt wrote:
>> Is there some way to export the postgresql query parse tree in XML format?
>>  I can not locate the API/Tool etc to do that...
> Thats more of a -general question.
>
> There is no such possibility in 8.4 - the not yet released 8.5 contains such a
> possibility.

Well, you can export the plan as XML using EXPLAIN (FORMAT XML), but
that's not the same thing as the query parse-tree.

....Robert

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From: Andres Freund on
On Tuesday 29 December 2009 01:35:25 Robert Haas wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 7:32 PM, Andres Freund <andres(a)anarazel.de> wrote:
> > On Monday 28 December 2009 22:30:44 matt wrote:
> >> Is there some way to export the postgresql query parse tree in XML
> >> format? I can not locate the API/Tool etc to do that...
> >
> > Thats more of a -general question.
> >
> > There is no such possibility in 8.4 - the not yet released 8.5 contains
> > such a possibility.
>
> Well, you can export the plan as XML using EXPLAIN (FORMAT XML), but
> that's not the same thing as the query parse-tree.
Uh. Err. Sorry.

You can play around with "debug_print_parse" but thats many things but
definitely not xml.

Matt, what are you trying to achieve?

Andres

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From: Andres Freund on
On Tuesday 29 December 2009 15:30:00 matt wrote:
> --- On Mon, 12/28/09, Andres Freund <andres(a)anarazel.de> wrote:
> > From: Andres Freund <andres(a)anarazel.de>
> > Subject: Re: [HACKERS] parse tree to XML format
> > To: pgsql-hackers(a)postgresql.org
> > Cc: "Robert Haas" <robertmhaas(a)gmail.com>, "matt" <nuc233(a)yahoo.com>
> > Date: Monday, December 28, 2009, 7:39 PM
> > On Tuesday 29 December 2009 01:35:25
> >
> > Robert Haas wrote:
> > > On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 7:32 PM, Andres Freund <andres(a)anarazel.de>
> >
> > wrote:
> > > > On Monday 28 December 2009 22:30:44 matt wrote:
> > > > > Is there some way to export the postgresql
> > > > > query parse tree in XML
> > > > Thats more of a -general question. There is no such possibility in 8.4
> > > > - the not yet released 8.5 contains such a possibility.
> > > Well, you can export the plan as XML using EXPLAIN (FORMAT XML), but
> > > that's not the same thing as the query parse-tree.
> > Uh. Err. Sorry.
> > Matt, what are you trying to achieve?
> We are trying to gather statistics about our queries and get automatic
> suggestions for what indexes to utilize ...its easier to figure that on
> queries that are in some format else we have to effectively parse the
> queries ourself or hack the postgresql parser...which we dont want to
> do...

> Did you mention that the 8.5 code has such a functionality? i would like to
> download the code and play with it a bit, any pointers what i need to do
> to get the XML?
Well, I didnt read carefully enough to recognize that you only want the parse
tree and not the post-optimization query plan. The latter one you can get by
using EXPLAIN (FORMAT XML) $query, but thats quite possibly not what you want
to get.

Other than setting debug_print_parse might be interesting - that does output a
pure text ormat though.

Another approach for such suggestions is to scan the statistic tables to i.e.
look for tables which are sequentially scanned or such.

Andres

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From: Pavel Stehule on
2009/12/29 matt <nuc233(a)yahoo.com>:
>
>
> --- On Mon, 12/28/09, Andres Freund <andres(a)anarazel.de> wrote:
>
>> From: Andres Freund <andres(a)anarazel.de>
>> Subject: Re: [HACKERS] parse tree to XML format
>> To: pgsql-hackers(a)postgresql.org
>> Cc: "Robert Haas" <robertmhaas(a)gmail.com>, "matt" <nuc233(a)yahoo.com>
>> Date: Monday, December 28, 2009, 7:39 PM
>> On Tuesday 29 December 2009 01:35:25
>> Robert Haas wrote:
>> > On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 7:32 PM, Andres Freund <andres(a)anarazel.de>
>> wrote:
>> > > On Monday 28 December 2009 22:30:44 matt wrote:
>> > >> Is there some way to export the postgresql
>> query parse tree in XML
>> > >> format? I can not locate the API/Tool etc to
>> do that...
>> > >
>> > > Thats more of a -general question.
>> > >
>> > > There is no such possibility in 8.4 - the not yet
>> released 8.5 contains
>> > > such a possibility.
>> >
>> > Well, you can export the plan as XML using EXPLAIN
>> (FORMAT XML), but
>> > that's not the same thing as the query parse-tree.
>> Uh. Err. Sorry.
>>
>> You can play around with "debug_print_parse" but thats many
>> things but
>> definitely not xml.
>>
>> Matt, what are you trying to achieve?
>
> We are trying to gather statistics about our queries and get automatic suggestions for what indexes to utilize ...its easier to figure that on queries that are in some format else we have to effectively parse the queries ourself or hack the postgresql parser...which we dont want to do...

It's wrong place - you have to parse execution plan. Parser knows
nothing about index usage.

maybe this link will be useful for you
http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-patches/2007-05/msg00421.php

Regards
Pavel Stehule

>
> Did you mention that the 8.5 code has such a functionality? i would like to download the code and play with it a bit, any pointers what i need to do to  get the XML?
>
> regards
> Matt
>
>
>>
>> Andres
>>
>
>
>
>
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