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From: Lew on 8 Jun 2010 22:32 Lew wrote: >> What does it matter if I am odious and right, if I am right? ClassCastException wrote: > Roedy does have a point, though, that people are less willing to read and > accept what you have to say if you are "odious and right" than if you're > non-odious and right. Let's see. I took a technical essay about Java and discussed its technical details, in a forum devoted to the discussion of Java technology. How odious that is! Roedy only had a point if he was discussing something that actually was odious. I find it odious to hawk your web site as though it were the be-all and end-all of Java information and then put misinformation and bad advice in it. I find it especially odious for someone to get all snarky when someone else goes to the trouble to present a technical viewpoint on that bad technical information in a forum devoted to doing just that. I find it very odious for someone to present themselves as a great help to the new Java programmer only to give them advice that will make them worse Java programmers. The fact is that interfaces are one of the linchpins of Java programming and not incidental or dilatory in any way. Let's not lose sight of the real point here in the midst of all your mud-flinging. -- Lew
From: ClassCastException on 9 Jun 2010 21:12 On Tue, 08 Jun 2010 22:32:54 -0400, Lew wrote: > Lew wrote: >>> What does it matter if I am odious and right, if I am right? > > ClassCastException wrote: >> Roedy does have a point, though, that people are less willing to read >> and accept what you have to say if you are "odious and right" than if >> you're non-odious and right. > > Let's see. I took a technical essay about Java and discussed its > technical details, in a forum devoted to the discussion of Java > technology. I was responding solely to your comment "What does it matter if I am odious and right, if I am right", and not to the larger debate. With respect to the larger debate, I agree with you re: the importance of interfaces. Clarified?
From: Arne Vajhøj on 12 Jun 2010 21:32
On 08-06-2010 22:32, Lew wrote: > Lew wrote: >>> What does it matter if I am odious and right, if I am right? > > ClassCastException wrote: >> Roedy does have a point, though, that people are less willing to read and >> accept what you have to say if you are "odious and right" than if you're >> non-odious and right. > > Let's see. I took a technical essay about Java and discussed its > technical details, in a forum devoted to the discussion of Java technology. > > How odious that is! > > Roedy only had a point if he was discussing something that actually was > odious. > > I find it odious to hawk your web site as though it were the be-all and > end-all of Java information and then put misinformation and bad advice > in it. I find it especially odious for someone to get all snarky when > someone else goes to the trouble to present a technical viewpoint on > that bad technical information in a forum devoted to doing just that. I > find it very odious for someone to present themselves as a great help to > the new Java programmer only to give them advice that will make them > worse Java programmers. > > The fact is that interfaces are one of the linchpins of Java programming > and not incidental or dilatory in any way. Let's not lose sight of the > real point here in the midst of all your mud-flinging. I would put it more briefly: if you don't have the time or the will to put correct info on the web, then don't put any info on the web - incorrect or misleading info is worse than no info. Arne |