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From: luc peuvrier on 31 Jan 2010 05:47
http://joafip.sourceforge.net/
can be see as a:
- an "intelligent" serialization: write only changes, read only object
needed
- manage more object than memory can contains
- an alternate persistence solution to relationnal database
From: Roedy Green on 31 Jan 2010 06:04
On Sun, 31 Jan 2010 02:47:02 -0800 (PST), luc peuvrier
<lcpvrr(a)gmail.com> wrote, quoted or indirectly quoted someone who said
:

>http://joafip.sourceforge.net/
>can be see as a:
>- an "intelligent" serialization: write only changes, read only object
>needed
>- manage more object than memory can contains
>- an alternate persistence solution to relationnal database

It is one of a class of programs called PODs. See
http://mindprod.com/jgloss/pod.html

Jaofip seems to be the liveliest right now. For reasons I do not
understand, interest in them has dropped.

Programming with them is almost like having a multi terrabyte RAM
machine that never loses power and the app never terminates.
--
Roedy Green Canadian Mind Products
http://mindprod.com
Computers are useless. They can only give you answers.
~ Pablo Picasso (born: 1881-10-25 died: 1973-04-08 at age: 91)
From: Arved Sandstrom on 31 Jan 2010 07:58
Roedy Green wrote:
> On Sun, 31 Jan 2010 02:47:02 -0800 (PST), luc peuvrier
> <lcpvrr(a)gmail.com> wrote, quoted or indirectly quoted someone who said
> :
>
>> http://joafip.sourceforge.net/
>> can be see as a:
>> - an "intelligent" serialization: write only changes, read only object
>> needed
>> - manage more object than memory can contains
>> - an alternate persistence solution to relationnal database
>
> It is one of a class of programs called PODs. See
> http://mindprod.com/jgloss/pod.html
>
> Jaofip seems to be the liveliest right now. For reasons I do not
> understand, interest in them has dropped.
>
> Programming with them is almost like having a multi terrabyte RAM
> machine that never loses power and the app never terminates.

Not to comment on the mentioned implementation (I've never used it), but
I'd like to point out that persistence providers like EclipseLink have
put a lot of effort into doing "intelligent" serialization as described
above. It's part of their bread and butter.

AHS
From: Tom Anderson on 31 Jan 2010 19:30
On Sun, 31 Jan 2010, luc peuvrier wrote:

> http://joafip.sourceforge.net/
> can be see as a:
> - an "intelligent" serialization: write only changes, read only object
> needed
> - manage more object than memory can contains
> - an alternate persistence solution to relationnal database

So you've basically reinvented JDO? That's cool, i always liked JDO.

tom

--
Rumor has it, though, that a vast, echoless complex exists beneath
Atlanta, dug by Ludacris. Its dimensions are too shocking to believe. He
hangs out down there with Umberto Eco, discussing the Hollow Earth Theory
and practicing rhymes. Whenever another royalty check comes through,
he digs deeper. -- Geoff Manaugh
From: luc peuvrier on 1 Feb 2010 13:30
On Feb 1, 1:30 am, Tom Anderson <t...(a)urchin.earth.li> wrote:
> On Sun, 31 Jan 2010, luc peuvrier wrote:
> >http://joafip.sourceforge.net/
> > can be see as a:
> > - an "intelligent" serialization: write only changes, read only object
> > needed
> > - manage more object than memory can contains
> > - an alternate persistence solution to relationnal database
>
> So you've basically reinvented JDO? That's cool, i always liked JDO.
>
> tom
>
> --
> Rumor has it, though, that a vast, echoless complex exists beneath
> Atlanta, dug by Ludacris. Its dimensions are too shocking to believe. He
> hangs out down there with Umberto Eco, discussing the Hollow Earth Theory
> and practicing rhymes. Whenever another royalty check comes through,
> he digs deeper. -- Geoff Manaugh

Hi Tom,

I do not think reinvented JDO. If you like JDO and well know it I will
be happy you compare the JOAFIP and JDO facade.
Luc
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