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From: Mike Schilling on 2 Feb 2010 21:46 Lew wrote: > "SPAM" in all upper-case letters is a trademark of Hormel foods for > their canned pork product. Hormel's SPAM museum (http://www.spam.com/games/Museum/default.aspx) has a Monty Python exhibit. Pretty cool of them to embrace the skit rather than getting shirty about trademark usage.
From: Lew on 2 Feb 2010 21:59 Mike Schilling wrote: > Lew wrote: >> "SPAM" in all upper-case letters is a trademark of Hormel foods for >> their canned pork product. > > Hormel's SPAM museum (http://www.spam.com/games/Museum/default.aspx) has a > Monty Python exhibit. Pretty cool of them to embrace the skit rather than > getting shirty about trademark usage. But the Monty Python skit actually does refer to the Hormel product. No risk of confusion there. The use of "spam" (lower case) to represent the evil of unwanted commercial email is much less flattering. Hormel states their trademark policy pretty clearly on their website, and they once denied me the right to use a photo of their product in a computer article, explaining that they didn't want their product associated with anything computer-related because of the negative connotations of "spam". My guess - a skit that honors, albeit satirically, the trademark, and from a well-respected and highly-talented comedy troupe: no worries. Association with one of the great evils of the computer age: no way. -- Lew
From: Mike Schilling on 2 Feb 2010 23:33 Lew wrote: > Mike Schilling wrote: >> Lew wrote: >>> "SPAM" in all upper-case letters is a trademark of Hormel foods for >>> their canned pork product. >> >> Hormel's SPAM museum (http://www.spam.com/games/Museum/default.aspx) >> has a Monty Python exhibit. Pretty cool of them to embrace the skit >> rather than getting shirty about trademark usage. > > But the Monty Python skit actually does refer to the Hormel product. No > risk of confusion there. No, but since the point of the skit is how disgusting the stuff is ...
From: Tom Anderson on 3 Feb 2010 09:17 On Tue, 2 Feb 2010, Mike Schilling wrote: > Lew wrote: >> Mike Schilling wrote: >>> Lew wrote: >>>> "SPAM" in all upper-case letters is a trademark of Hormel foods for >>>> their canned pork product. >>> >>> Hormel's SPAM museum (http://www.spam.com/games/Museum/default.aspx) >>> has a Monty Python exhibit. Pretty cool of them to embrace the skit >>> rather than getting shirty about trademark usage. >> >> But the Monty Python skit actually does refer to the Hormel product. No >> risk of confusion there. > > No, but since the point of the skit is how disgusting the stuff is ... That's not the point of the sketch. The point of the sketch is the surrealism of a cafe which only one thing, but serves it in dozens of presumably indistinguishable combinations. That the one thing is spam is important, because i don't think the sketch would be funny if it was chocolate instead, but i think that has as much to do with the funny sound of the word than the disgusting nature of the stuff. tom -- Most people lose their talent at puberty. I lost mine in my early twenties. I began to think of children not as immature adults, but of adults as atrophied children. -- Keith Johnstone
From: Lew on 3 Feb 2010 11:38
Mike Schilling wrote: >> No, but since the point of the skit is how disgusting the stuff is ... Tom Anderson wrote: > That's not the point of the sketch. The point of the sketch is the > surrealism of a cafe which only one thing, but serves it in dozens of > presumably indistinguishable combinations. That the one thing is spam is > important, because i don't think the sketch would be funny if it was > chocolate instead, but i think that has as much to do with the funny > sound of the word than the disgusting nature of the stuff. Mike is right. In the 70s, when Monty Python created the skit, many Britishers still remembered having to virtually live on SPAM during the war years, and it remained a staple food of the penurious. They tended not to remember it with pleasure. That is very much part of the reason the skit used SPAM and not chocolate. For the record, I love SPAM. It's a bit too salty, perhaps, but it's a guilty pleasure. Then again, I've never had to live on it. -- Lew |