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From: Chris Chiasson on 4 Jun 2006 02:06 The Integrate result seems pretty weak. Is there any way to obtain a more explicit exact answer besides manually converting the Piecewise function to two UnitStep functions? Can the same be done if the final limit of integration is a variable? in load[x_]=-9*10^3*DiracDelta[x]+Piecewise[{{x*10*(10^3/3),0<=x<=3}}]-6*10^3*DiracDelta[x-5]//InputForm out -6000*DiracDelta[-5 + x] - 9000*DiracDelta[x] + Piecewise[{{(10000*x)/3, 0 <= x <= 3}}, 0] in Integrate[load[x],{x,0,5}]//InputForm out Integrate[InputForm[-6000*DiracDelta[-5 + x] - 9000*DiracDelta[x] + Piecewise[{{(10000*x)/3, 0 <= x <= 3}}, 0]], {x, 0, 5}] -- http://chris.chiasson.name/
From: Bob Hanlon on 5 Jun 2006 04:04 load[x_]=-9*10^3* DiracDelta[x]+Piecewise[{{x*10*(10^3/3),0?x?3}},0]-6*10^3*DiracDelta[x-5]; If a bound of the integration is on a DiracDelta then Mathematica integrates that DiracDelta to 1/2 of its coefficient Integrate[DiracDelta[x],{x,0,1}] 1/2 Integrate[DiracDelta[x],{x,-1,0}] 1/2 Integrate[DiracDelta[x],{x,-1,1}] 1 This impacts both ends of your integral Integrate[#,{x,0,5}]&/@load[x] 7500 Integrate[#,{x,0,6}]&/@load[x] 4500 Integrate[#,{x,-1,5}]&/@load[x] 3000 Integrate[#,{x,-1,6}]&/@load[x] 0 Bob Hanlon ---- Chris Chiasson <chris(a)chiasson.name> wrote: > The Integrate result seems pretty weak. Is there any way to obtain a > more explicit exact answer besides manually converting the Piecewise > function to two UnitStep functions? Can the same be done if the final > limit of integration is a variable? > > in > > load[x_]=-9*10^3*DiracDelta[x]+Piecewise[{{x*10*(10^3/3),0<=x<=3}}]-6*10^3*DiracDelta[x-5]//InputForm > > out > > -6000*DiracDelta[-5 + x] - 9000*DiracDelta[x] + > Piecewise[{{(10000*x)/3, 0 <= x <= 3}}, 0] > > in > > Integrate[load[x],{x,0,5}]//InputForm > > out > > Integrate[InputForm[-6000*DiracDelta[-5 + x] - 9000*DiracDelta[x] + > Piecewise[{{(10000*x)/3, 0 <= x <= 3}}, 0]], {x, 0, 5}] > > -- > http://chris.chiasson.name/ > -- Bob Hanlon hanlonr(a)cox.net
From: Jean-Marc Gulliet on 5 Jun 2006 04:06 Chris Chiasson wrote: > The Integrate result seems pretty weak. Is there any way to obtain a > more explicit exact answer besides manually converting the Piecewise > function to two UnitStep functions? Can the same be done if the final > limit of integration is a variable? > > in > > load[x_]=-9*10^3*DiracDelta[x]+Piecewise[{{x*10*(10^3/3),0<=x<=3}}]-6*10^3*DiracDelta[x-5]//InputForm > > out > > -6000*DiracDelta[-5 + x] - 9000*DiracDelta[x] + > Piecewise[{{(10000*x)/3, 0 <= x <= 3}}, 0] > > in > > Integrate[load[x],{x,0,5}]//InputForm > > out > > Integrate[InputForm[-6000*DiracDelta[-5 + x] - 9000*DiracDelta[x] + > Piecewise[{{(10000*x)/3, 0 <= x <= 3}}, 0]], {x, 0, 5}] > Hi Chris, You could try Maxim Rytin's PiecewiseIntegrate function [1]. From MathSource: "The notebook contains the implementation of four functions PiecewiseIntegrate, PiecewiseSum, NPiecewiseIntegrate, NPiecewiseSum. They are intended for working with piecewise continuous functions, and also generalized functions in the case of PiecewiseIntegrate. They support all the standard Mathematica piecewise functions such as UnitStep, Abs, Max, as well as Floor and other arithmetic piecewise functions. PiecewiseIntegrate supports the multidimensional DiracDelta function and its derivatives. The arguments of the piecewise functions can be non-algebraic and contain symbolic parameters." In[1]:= load[x_] := -6000*DiracDelta[-5 + x] - 9000*DiracDelta[x] + Piecewise[ {{(10000*x)/3, 0 <= x <= 3}}, 0] In[2]:= Integrate[load[x], {x, 0, 5}] Out[2]= Integrate[-6000*DiracDelta[-5 + x] - 9000*DiracDelta[x] + Piecewise[ {{(10000*x)/3, 0 <= x <= 3}}], {x, 0, 5}] In[103]:= PiecewiseIntegrate[load[x], {x, 0, 5}] Out[103]= 0 HTH, Jean-Marc [1]: Rytin, Maxim, _Integration of Piecewise Functions with Applications_, Mathematica Package, http://library.wolfram.com/infocenter/MathSource/5117/
From: Andrzej Kozlowski on 5 Jun 2006 04:08 On 4 Jun 2006, at 15:01, Chris Chiasson wrote: > The Integrate result seems pretty weak. Is there any way to obtain a > more explicit exact answer besides manually converting the Piecewise > function to two UnitStep functions? Can the same be done if the final > limit of integration is a variable? > > in > > load[x_]=-9*10^3*DiracDelta[x]+Piecewise[{{x*10*(10^3/3), > 0<=x<=3}}]-6*10^3*DiracDelta[x-5]//InputForm > > out > > -6000*DiracDelta[-5 + x] - 9000*DiracDelta[x] + > Piecewise[{{(10000*x)/3, 0 <= x <= 3}}, 0] > > in > > Integrate[load[x],{x,0,5}]//InputForm > > out > > Integrate[InputForm[-6000*DiracDelta[-5 + x] - 9000*DiracDelta[x] + > Piecewise[{{(10000*x)/3, 0 <= x <= 3}}, 0]], {x, 0, 5}] > > -- > http://chris.chiasson.name/ > I am sure Maxim does not need my help to advertise his package but somehow people still keep posting such questions with surprising frequency. Even if for some reason you do not want to use a third party package you can always look at the Mathematica code inside, which should answer questions such as these. load[x_] = -9*10^3* DiracDelta[x] + Piecewise[{{x*10*(10^3/3), 0 <= x <= 3}}] - 6*10^3*DiracDelta[x - 5]; << piecewise` In[3]:= PiecewiseIntegrate[load[x],{x,0,5}] Out[3]= 0 In[4]:= PiecewiseIntegrate[load[x], {x, 0, a}] Out[4]= If[Inequality[0, Less, a, LessEqual, 3], (5000*a^2)/3, 0] + If[3 < a, 15000, 0] + If[a < 0, 9000, 0] + If[0 <= a, -9000, 0] + If[5 <= a, -6000, 0] Andrzej Kozlowski
From: David W.Cantrell on 5 Jun 2006 04:12 "Chris Chiasson" <chris(a)chiasson.name> wrote: > The Integrate result seems pretty weak. Is there any way to obtain a > more explicit exact answer besides manually converting the Piecewise > function to two UnitStep functions? I'm not sure. That's _essentially_ (but not literally) what I'd do. > Can the same be done if the final limit of integration is a variable? Yes. Are you aware that (at least in version 5.1) using variable limits of integration over UnitStep can reveal a bug? For example: In[6]:= Integrate[UnitStep[x],{x,0,3}] Out[6]= 3 In[7]:= Assuming[a<=b,Integrate[UnitStep[x],{x,a,b}]] Out[7]= (b UnitStep[-a]+(-a+b) UnitStep[a]) UnitStep[b] In[8]:= %/.{a->0,b->3} Out[8]= 6 Out[8] doesn't agree with Out[6], which was correct. This discrepancy is caused by Out[7] not being correct in general (even when a<=b). Here's a possible remedy. We define our own unit step: In[9]:= ourUnitStep[x_]:= (Abs[x]/x + 1)/2 In[10]:= Assuming[a<=b,Integrate[ourUnitStep[x],{x,a,b}]] Out[10]= Piecewise[{{-a, a > 0 && b < 0 && a - b >= 0}, {b, b > 0 && a < 0}, {-2*a + b, a > 0 && b < 0 && a - b < 0}, {-a + b, (a == 0 && a - b < 0) || (a >= 0 && b >= 0 && a - b < 0)}}] Messy, but AFAIK, correct whenever a <= b. > in > > load[x_]=-9*10^3*DiracDelta[x]+Piecewise[{{x*10*(10^3/3), > 0<=x<=3}}]-6*10^3*DiracDelta[x-5]//InputForm > > out > > -6000*DiracDelta[-5 + x] - 9000*DiracDelta[x] + > Piecewise[{{(10000*x)/3, 0 <= x <= 3}}, 0] > > in > > Integrate[load[x],{x,0,5}]//InputForm > > out > > Integrate[InputForm[-6000*DiracDelta[-5 + x] - 9000*DiracDelta[x] + > Piecewise[{{(10000*x)/3, 0 <= x <= 3}}, 0]], {x, 0, 5}] Neglecting the DiracDelta terms, In[14]:= Assuming[a<=b, Simplify[Integrate[(x*10*(10^3/3))(ourUnitStep[x]-ourUnitStep[x-3]),{x,a, b}]]] Out[14]= Piecewise[{{15000, b > 3 && a < 0}, {(-(5000/3))*(-9 + a^2), 0 <= a < 3 && b > 3}, {(5000*b^2)/3, a < 0 && 0 < b <= 3}, {(-(5000/3))*(a^2 - b^2), a < b && b <= 3 && (a == 0 || (a < 3 && 0 <= a && 0 <= b))}}] The contributions from the DiracDelta terms can then be added to that. (For some reason, I was unable to get the integral to evaluate if the DiracDelta terms were present.) David
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