From: Alvaro Herrera on 1 Feb 2010 16:11 Peter Eisentraut escribi�: > On m�n, 2010-02-01 at 12:01 -0800, Nathan Boley wrote: > > I code nearly exclusively in python and C, but I have > > often found pl/python to be very unwieldy. For this reason I often > > use pl/perl or pl/pgsql for problems that, outside of postgres, I > > would always use python. > > I find that curious, because much of the criticism about the current > PL/Python can be traced back to the fact that the implementation used to > be an exact copy of PL/Perl. Perhaps the problem is that PL/Perl used to be unwieldy back when PL/Python was created. PL/Perl has definitely seen a lot more activity. -- Alvaro Herrera http://www.CommandPrompt.com/ The PostgreSQL Company - Command Prompt, Inc. -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers(a)postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers
From: Bruce Momjian on 1 Feb 2010 16:13 Alvaro Herrera wrote: > Peter Eisentraut escribi?: > > On m?n, 2010-02-01 at 12:01 -0800, Nathan Boley wrote: > > > I code nearly exclusively in python and C, but I have > > > often found pl/python to be very unwieldy. For this reason I often > > > use pl/perl or pl/pgsql for problems that, outside of postgres, I > > > would always use python. > > > > I find that curious, because much of the criticism about the current > > PL/Python can be traced back to the fact that the implementation used to > > be an exact copy of PL/Perl. > > Perhaps the problem is that PL/Perl used to be unwieldy back when > PL/Python was created. PL/Perl has definitely seen a lot more activity. I would love to know why PL/Python can't be incrementally improved like the rest of our code. -- Bruce Momjian <bruce(a)momjian.us> http://momjian.us EnterpriseDB http://enterprisedb.com + If your life is a hard drive, Christ can be your backup. + -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers(a)postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers
From: "Joshua D. Drake" on 1 Feb 2010 16:30 On Mon, 2010-02-01 at 16:13 -0500, Bruce Momjian wrote: > Alvaro Herrera wrote: > > Peter Eisentraut escribi?: > > > On m?n, 2010-02-01 at 12:01 -0800, Nathan Boley wrote: > > > > I code nearly exclusively in python and C, but I have > > > > often found pl/python to be very unwieldy. For this reason I often > > > > use pl/perl or pl/pgsql for problems that, outside of postgres, I > > > > would always use python. > > > > > > I find that curious, because much of the criticism about the current > > > PL/Python can be traced back to the fact that the implementation used to > > > be an exact copy of PL/Perl. > > > > Perhaps the problem is that PL/Perl used to be unwieldy back when > > PL/Python was created. PL/Perl has definitely seen a lot more activity. > > I would love to know why PL/Python can't be incrementally improved like > the rest of our code. It has been. That is exactly what PeterE has been doing. However, if you look at this whole thread, you will see the James has a very different view of the implementation. One that at least appears to be more advanced and "pythonic" than our version. Joshua D. Drake -- PostgreSQL.org Major Contributor Command Prompt, Inc: http://www.commandprompt.com/ - 503.667.4564 Consulting, Training, Support, Custom Development, Engineering Respect is earned, not gained through arbitrary and repetitive use or Mr. or Sir. -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers(a)postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers
From: Bruce Momjian on 1 Feb 2010 16:31 Joshua D. Drake wrote: > On Mon, 2010-02-01 at 16:13 -0500, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > Alvaro Herrera wrote: > > > Peter Eisentraut escribi?: > > > > On m?n, 2010-02-01 at 12:01 -0800, Nathan Boley wrote: > > > > > I code nearly exclusively in python and C, but I have > > > > > often found pl/python to be very unwieldy. For this reason I often > > > > > use pl/perl or pl/pgsql for problems that, outside of postgres, I > > > > > would always use python. > > > > > > > > I find that curious, because much of the criticism about the current > > > > PL/Python can be traced back to the fact that the implementation used to > > > > be an exact copy of PL/Perl. > > > > > > Perhaps the problem is that PL/Perl used to be unwieldy back when > > > PL/Python was created. PL/Perl has definitely seen a lot more activity. > > > > I would love to know why PL/Python can't be incrementally improved like > > the rest of our code. > > It has been. That is exactly what PeterE has been doing. > > However, if you look at this whole thread, you will see the James has a > very different view of the implementation. One that at least appears to > be more advanced and "pythonic" than our version. More "pythonic" in its internal processing or in its user interface? -- Bruce Momjian <bruce(a)momjian.us> http://momjian.us EnterpriseDB http://enterprisedb.com + If your life is a hard drive, Christ can be your backup. + -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers(a)postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers
From: "Joshua D. Drake" on 1 Feb 2010 16:39
On Mon, 2010-02-01 at 16:31 -0500, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > > > I would love to know why PL/Python can't be incrementally improved like > > > the rest of our code. > > > > It has been. That is exactly what PeterE has been doing. > > > > However, if you look at this whole thread, you will see the James has a > > very different view of the implementation. One that at least appears to > > be more advanced and "pythonic" than our version. > > More "pythonic" in its internal processing or in its user interface? User interface and also internal processing (see the types discussion). Joshua D. Drake -- PostgreSQL.org Major Contributor Command Prompt, Inc: http://www.commandprompt.com/ - 503.667.4564 Consulting, Training, Support, Custom Development, Engineering Respect is earned, not gained through arbitrary and repetitive use or Mr. or Sir. -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers(a)postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers |