proof that the Doppler Shift never occurrs with EM waves Chapt 8 #144; ATOM TOTALITY
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From: Archimedes Plutonium on 7 Jun 2010 15:23 Mike Dworetsky wrote: > > Really? Then how do you account for the following instruction to ham radio > operators trying to talk to astronauts on ISS during scheduled sessions: > > a.. NOTE: The "DOPPLER EFFECT" means that the frequency of the space station > will change slightly as it passes by your location. It is usual to adjust > the "downlink" frequency slightly on your receiver (if it is variable). > > From http://kg4jvi.webs.com/hamradiotheiss.htm (snipped) > > -- > Mike Dworetsky > Get real; taking the words in some instructions as scientific knowledge. Do you take the instructions of your new generator made in China with Chinese interpreters writing the instruction manual as scientific knowledge? Look, Mike, it is easy to retrofit or reengineer the interferometer of Michelson's famous luminerfous aether Experiment of 1887. It is easy to retrofit that Experiment to see if the Doppler shift Effect can exist upon EM waves. I am doing the experiment in my mind and cannot see how anything but a "null result" accrues out of such a retrofitted Michelson Experiment. In my mind, which could be wrong, the Michelson Experiment in its original form proves that EM waves cannot Doppler shift, because if EM waves can Doppler shift, then Michelson and Morley in 1887 would have had to have made a adjustment for the Doppler shift. And also, to think that these cop radars or weather doppler radars really have a Doppler shift occurring would have to have a miniaturized Michelson Interferometer inside of them in order to fetch out that tiny Doppler Shift and I simply cannot envision how modern technology has miniaturized the interfermeter to fit inside one of those puny Doppler radar guns or even those Weather Doppler-radars. When culture has a fake-science in its midsts-- doppler radar -- then that fake science gets spread around all over the place, for perhaps it sells more radars if the words "Doppler radar" are splashed as advertisement, long before anyone rational enough to say "stop this nonsense and get some real physics in the form of an experiment to put an end to the nonsense." So I am saying, stop the nonsense and retrofit the Michelson Experiment of 1887 to put an end to the Doppler Shift fakery. Or, in the tiny possibility that I was wrong, show me if that is the case. Archimedes Plutonium http://www.iw.net/~a_plutonium/ whole entire Universe is just one big atom where dots of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies
From: Mike Dworetsky on 7 Jun 2010 17:38
Archimedes Plutonium wrote: > Mike Dworetsky wrote: >> >> Really? Then how do you account for the following instruction to >> ham radio operators trying to talk to astronauts on ISS during >> scheduled sessions: >> >> a.. NOTE: The "DOPPLER EFFECT" means that the frequency of the space >> station will change slightly as it passes by your location. It is >> usual to adjust the "downlink" frequency slightly on your receiver >> (if it is variable). >> >> From http://kg4jvi.webs.com/hamradiotheiss.htm > > (snipped) > >> >> -- >> Mike Dworetsky >> > > > Get real; taking the words in some instructions as scientific > knowledge. Do you > take the instructions of your new generator made in China with Chinese > interpreters > writing the instruction manual as scientific knowledge? Non sequitur. The radio operator was very experienced and knew these systems well. I'd take his advice over yours any day. I don't need to show that my factual statements are right. It's up to you to prove your paranoid rants are right and millions of scientist and engineers are wrong. Go right ahead. > > Look, Mike, it is easy to retrofit or reengineer the interferometer of > Michelson's famous > luminerfous aether Experiment of 1887. It is easy to retrofit that > Experiment to > see if the Doppler shift Effect can exist upon EM waves. I am doing > the experiment > in my mind Well, I think that's the problem, you seem to have an equipment fault. > and cannot see how anything but a "null result" accrues out > of such a > retrofitted Michelson Experiment. In my mind, which could be wrong, > the Michelson > Experiment in its original form proves that EM waves cannot Doppler > shift, because > if EM waves can Doppler shift, then Michelson and Morley in 1887 would > have had > to have made a adjustment for the Doppler shift. > > And also, to think that these cop radars or weather doppler radars > really have a > Doppler shift occurring would have to have a miniaturized Michelson > Interferometer > inside of them in order to fetch out that tiny Doppler Shift and I > simply cannot envision > how modern technology has miniaturized the interfermeter to fit inside > one of those > puny Doppler radar guns or even those Weather Doppler-radars. That's because you have no real idea how radar works. It does not rely on interferometry. > > When culture has a fake-science in its midsts-- doppler radar -- then > that fake > science gets spread around all over the place, for perhaps it sells > more radars if > the words "Doppler radar" are splashed as advertisement, long before > anyone rational enough > to say "stop this nonsense and get some real physics in the form of an > experiment to put an end to the nonsense." > > So I am saying, stop the nonsense and retrofit the Michelson > Experiment of 1887 > to put an end to the Doppler Shift fakery. Or, in the tiny possibility > that I was wrong, > show me if that is the case. What do you mean, *tiny* possibility? > > Archimedes Plutonium > http://www.iw.net/~a_plutonium/ > whole entire Universe is just one big atom > where dots of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies -- Mike Dworetsky (Remove pants sp*mbl*ck to reply) |