From: Peter on 11 Aug 2010 17:14 On Aug 11, 8:50 pm, Tim Chase <python.l...(a)tim.thechases.com> wrote: > On 08/11/10 01:24, Terry Reedy wrote: > > > On 8/10/2010 8:08 PM, Roy Smith wrote: > >> In any case, if the candidate were to submit somebody else's > >> work, it would come out pretty quickly as we discussed their > >> code. I suppose one question I might ask would be, "Can you > >> explain why, when I copy-paste one of your comments into a > >> google search box, your entire program appears?" > > > Mostly likely because I wrote the original... > > > would be my answer. > > Unfortunately there are candidates who would give your answer but > then have trouble with "Then why are the Last-Modified HTTP > headers showing a date several months before our interview?" > It's as bad as the phone-interviews I've done where in the > background I can hear the person on the other end typing my > questions into a search box and reading off answers. On the > bright side, those are short interviews... ;-) > > -tkc I know we are straying somewhat here :-) But as an interviewer way back when in the never-never, I used to look at the interviewee's work history i.e. 18 months here, 12 months there, 6 months here etc and pretty much wipe them from my short-list based on that alone :-) Because it takes at least 3 months for a programmer to get "up to speed" fitting into your company and on your applications, they are usually only really productive and really "hitting their stride" at 6 months - somebody who "job hops" will already be looking for the next job by that time! I really did't have time to waste on these people - then there was the agents fee for finding them for you - big investment for zero return. So I would recommend to anybody that they attempt to maintain a stable work history in this respect. For example, my personal work history is 8, 7.5, 8.5, 0.5, 3, 3, 8 (years that is). My current company is extremely stable, I enjoy the work, so I don't see any reason why I won't be here until I retire (or die at my desk - whichever comes first :-)). Peter
From: Simon Brunning on 13 Aug 2010 13:03 On 11 August 2010 13:34:09 UTC+1, Steven D'Aprano <steve(a)remove-this-cybersource.com.au> wrote: > Getting interviewees to do a take-home problem just means you hire the > guy who is friends with a good programmer, rather than the good > programmer. We give a take-home problem. If we like the code we see, we invite the candidate to come in and pair with one of our devs in adding a simple feature or two to their own code. It's time consuming, but not so time consuming as hiring a weak dev. -- Cheers, Simon B.
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