From: Andreas Karpf on 11 Apr 2010 17:19 dear community! i have got a question with the following paper on page 10: http://www.dur.ac.uk/t.i.renstrom/research/dynamic.pdf Especially I don't have a clue how to solve from first order equations 7 - 9 to equations 11 - 14 as suggested in the paper. If anybody could give me a hint or explanation how to do this, this would be so great!!!!! Thank you very much! Andi
From: Alois Steindl on 12 Apr 2010 04:25 Hello, you should remember the math lecture(s) about implicit functions: (7) and (8) are two equations for the variables c and l. The author assumes, that these equations can be solved, so you get c and l as functions of q and omega. Suppressing the argument t for simplicity, you can rewrite (8) in the following way: u_c(c(q, omega), l(q, omega)) - q = 0. (8a) (You also get an analogous equation (9a) for (9)). Partially differentiating (8a) and (9a) w.r.t q gives u_cc c_q + u_cl l_q - 1 = 0 u_lc c_q + u_ll l_q + omega = 0 which is a linear equation for c_q and l_q. It's really basic calculus. Good luck Alois -- Alois Steindl, Tel.: +43 (1) 58801 / 32558 Inst. for Mechanics and Mechatronics Fax.: +43 (1) 58801 / 32598 Vienna University of Technology, A-1040 Wiedner Hauptstr. 8-10
From: Arno Narque on 12 Apr 2010 07:55 On 2010-04-12 10:25:04 +0200, Alois Steindl said: > Hello, > you should remember the math lecture(s) about implicit functions: > (7) and (8) are two equations for the variables c and l. The author > assumes, that these equations can be solved, so you get > c and l as functions of q and omega. Suppressing the argument t for > simplicity, you can rewrite (8) in the following way: > u_c(c(q, omega), l(q, omega)) - q = 0. (8a) > (You also get an analogous equation (9a) for (9)). > > Partially differentiating (8a) and (9a) w.r.t q gives > u_cc c_q + u_cl l_q - 1 = 0 > u_lc c_q + u_ll l_q + omega = 0 > which is a linear equation for c_q and l_q. > > It's really basic calculus. > > Good luck > Alois > > Oh man you are great, thank you very very much! That's great! Merci beaucoup, vielen vielen Dank!
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