From: Kristian Gj�steen on 1 Mar 2010 05:31 Rainer Urian <rainer(a)urian.eu> wrote: >and the "letters to the editor" of the poor victims ..... >www.ams.org/notices/200711/tx071101454p.pdf > >this is real high-quality fun .... Fun at first. Then a bit sad. I think Koblitz and Menezes are over-doing the rhetoric a bit, but they clearly have a point. It is obviously a mistake to argue about their rhetoric instead of their point. This part of the debate is a bit sad. Ivan Damgaard has written a very nice, reasoned essay about the point, explaining why even non-sharp reductions are useful and why there are _real_ problems with "naive" proofs in the random oracle model (it is possible to make collossal blunders with a technically correct proof). From my own personal experience, I find that writing security proofs (ie. proving properties about protocols) is a valuable tool for finding attacks. Whenever I can't complete a proof, the obstacle to the proof quite often turns into an attack. -- Kristian Gj�steen
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