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From: Don Burn on 9 Feb 2010 08:16
Actually starting with Vista you cannot access the raw sectors on the disk
while the disk is mounted for normal file operations. So your claim is
incorrect.


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>> AFAIK no, not from usermode.
>
> allow me to disagree with you on that:
> nothing prevents me from reading the file
> clusters straight off of the disk.
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From: Kerem Gümrükcü on 9 Feb 2010 11:39
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> Actually starting with Vista you cannot access the raw sectors on the disk
> while the disk is mounted for normal file operations. So your claim is
> incorrect.
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>>> AFAIK no, not from usermode.
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>> allow me to disagree with you on that:
>> nothing prevents me from reading the file
>> clusters straight off of the disk.
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From: Boba on 9 Feb 2010 12:13

"Don Burn" <burn(a)stopspam.windrvr.com> wrote in message
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> Actually starting with Vista you cannot access the raw sectors on the disk
> while the disk is mounted for normal file operations. So your claim is
> incorrect.

thank you, Don, for the correction (I havn't
touched Vista yet). Will I be able to read'em
under admin.rights?


From: Don Burn on 9 Feb 2010 12:35
No, you cannot. You need a filter driver in the stack to do it.

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> "Don Burn" <burn(a)stopspam.windrvr.com> wrote in message
> news:%233t%23JoYqKHA.5736(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>
> > Actually starting with Vista you cannot access the raw sectors on the disk
> > while the disk is mounted for normal file operations. So your claim is
> > incorrect.
>
>
> thank you, Don, for the correction (I havn't
> touched Vista yet). Will I be able to read'em
> under admin.rights?


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From: Boba on 9 Feb 2010 12:46
"Don Burn" <burn(a)stopspam.windrvr.com> wrote in message
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> No, you cannot.

thanks for the bad news.

> You need a filter driver in the stack to do it.

that's what i was afraid of: eventually all windows
programming will be kernel mode/driver writting....


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