From: neilsolent on

>  I challenge you to name _one_ commercial 3rd party application that
>  reboots a unix box.
>
> scott

OK. Challenge accepted.
How about IBM Tivoli Framework. The framework daemon has this
capability.
From: Rainer Weikusat on
neilsolent <n(a)solenttechnology.co.uk> writes:
>> �I challenge you to name _one_ commercial 3rd party application that
>> �reboots a unix box.
>>
> OK. Challenge accepted.
> How about IBM Tivoli Framework. The framework daemon has this
> capability.

So has the shutdown command and presumably, numerous single-user GUI
interfaces. But this is intended as a way to reboot the computer
(don't laugh now) and not as 'magix fix just in case'.
From: neilsolent on

> >>  I challenge you to name _one_ commercial 3rd party application that
> >>  reboots a unix box.
>
> > OK. Challenge accepted.
> > How about IBM Tivoli Framework. The framework daemon has this
> > capability.
>
> So has the shutdown command and presumably, numerous single-user GUI
> interfaces. But this is intended as a way to reboot the computer
> (don't laugh now) and not as 'magix fix just in case'.

The challenge is raised.
The challenge is answered.
The challenge is backtracked and dismissed as trivial.
You can't win :-(


From: Rainer Weikusat on
neilsolent <n(a)solenttechnology.co.uk> writes:
>> >> �I challenge you to name _one_ commercial 3rd party application that
>> >> �reboots a unix box.
>>
>> > OK. Challenge accepted.
>> > How about IBM Tivoli Framework. The framework daemon has this
>> > capability.
>>
>> So has the shutdown command and presumably, numerous single-user GUI
>> interfaces. But this is intended as a way to reboot the computer
>> (don't laugh now) and not as 'magix fix just in case'.
>
> The challenge is raised.
> The challenge is answered.
> The challenge is backtracked and dismissed as trivial.
> You can't win :-(

You answered a trivial challenge whose relation to the challenge which
was raised is based on inherent vagueness in 'human communication'
which always requires some amount of interpretation in order to be
understood. The obvious, trivial answer to the original question
(interpreting the '3rd party application' very liberally) is "Well,
duh, any proprietary UNIX(*)-kernel ever provided by some hardware
vendor" but that wasn't what had been asked for.
From: neilsolent on
On 19 Jan, 13:43, Rainer Weikusat <rweiku...(a)mssgmbh.com> wrote:
> neilsolent <n...(a)solenttechnology.co.uk> writes:
> >> >>  I challenge you to name _one_ commercial 3rd party application that
> >> >>  reboots a unix box.
>
> >> > OK. Challenge accepted.
> >> > How about IBM Tivoli Framework. The framework daemon has this
> >> > capability.
>
> >> So has the shutdown command and presumably, numerous single-user GUI
> >> interfaces. But this is intended as a way to reboot the computer
> >> (don't laugh now) and not as 'magix fix just in case'.
>
> > The challenge is raised.
> > The challenge is answered.
> > The challenge is backtracked and dismissed as trivial.
> > You can't win :-(
>
> You answered a trivial challenge whose relation to the challenge which
> was raised is based on inherent vagueness in 'human communication'
> which always requires some amount of interpretation in order to be
> understood. The obvious, trivial answer to the original question
> (interpreting the '3rd party application' very liberally) is "Well,
> duh, any proprietary UNIX(*)-kernel ever provided by some hardware
> vendor" but that wasn't what had been asked for.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Yes I provided a real non-trivial answer to the question.
Anyway I'm bored of reboots now.
Next time I reboot a box I promise to do a full analysis of all the
source code of every application (after reverse-compiling of course)
and I'll make sure it's all as clean as a whistle.