From: Dave N on
Sheridan Hutchinson wrote, on 03/09/09 11:44:
> david wrote:
>> sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/sdc gives me
>>
>> "setting using dma to 1 (on)"
>
> This is interesting, as from this I would take it that DMA is enabled
> correctly.
>
>> tried changing the grub boot
>> kernel parameters (combined_mode=ide or combined_mode=libata ) but still
>> no luck.
>
> I'm glad you tried this. It's a shame because DMA using the old driver
> (combined_mode=ide) should work fine with hdparm setting the DMA mode.
>
>> You say you use Debian. Do you think I should change to Lenny. Would it
>> have the same problem?
>
> I'm out of suggestions as to why it's taking ~ 1/2 and hour to rip a CD
> in Ubuntu. I have installed Debian to, and administrate many Debian
> machines, and while I would expect it to work correctly (once hdparm is
> setup) I could not guarantee it.
>
> That said, I would probably just pop another hard disk in the machine
> and disconnect the old ones, do a quick install of lenny, KDE and K3b,
> configure hdparm and try a rip.

This smacks of the "bleedin obvious" but does the OP have verification
enabled by default under Ubuntu?

--
Dave N
From: Bernard Peek on
In message <h7od0q$pi2$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>, Dave N
<nospam(a)werfner.org.uk.invalid> writes
>Sheridan Hutchinson wrote, on 03/09/09 11:44:
>> david wrote:
>>> sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/sdc gives me
>>>
>>> "setting using dma to 1 (on)"
>> This is interesting, as from this I would take it that DMA is
>>enabled
>> correctly.
>>
>>> tried changing the grub boot kernel parameters (combined_mode=ide
>>>or combined_mode=libata ) but still no luck.
>> I'm glad you tried this. It's a shame because DMA using the old
>>driver
>> (combined_mode=ide) should work fine with hdparm setting the DMA mode.
>>
>>> You say you use Debian. Do you think I should change to Lenny. Would
>>>it have the same problem?
>> I'm out of suggestions as to why it's taking ~ 1/2 and hour to rip a
>>CD
>> in Ubuntu. I have installed Debian to, and administrate many Debian
>> machines, and while I would expect it to work correctly (once hdparm is
>> setup) I could not guarantee it.
>> That said, I would probably just pop another hard disk in the
>>machine
>> and disconnect the old ones, do a quick install of lenny, KDE and K3b,
>> configure hdparm and try a rip.
>
>This smacks of the "bleedin obvious" but does the OP have verification
>enabled by default under Ubuntu?

Half to one hour sounds suspiciously like the playing time of a CD. I
know that Sound Juicer has the option to play as well as rip the CD. If
the ripping software is also playing the track it would explain the time
taken.



--
Bernard Peek
From: david on
On Thu, 03 Sep 2009 11:44:23 +0100, Sheridan Hutchinson wrote:

> david wrote:
>> sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/sdc gives me
>>
>> "setting using dma to 1 (on)"
>
> This is interesting, as from this I would take it that DMA is enabled
> correctly.
>
>> tried changing the grub boot
>> kernel parameters (combined_mode=ide or combined_mode=libata ) but
>> still no luck.
>
> I'm glad you tried this. It's a shame because DMA using the old driver
> (combined_mode=ide) should work fine with hdparm setting the DMA mode.
>
>> You say you use Debian. Do you think I should change to Lenny. Would it
>> have the same problem?
>
> I'm out of suggestions as to why it's taking ~ 1/2 and hour to rip a CD
> in Ubuntu. I have installed Debian to, and administrate many Debian
> machines, and while I would expect it to work correctly (once hdparm is
> setup) I could not guarantee it.
>
> That said, I would probably just pop another hard disk in the machine
> and disconnect the old ones, do a quick install of lenny, KDE and K3b,
> configure hdparm and try a rip.

Just to wrap this up.. I took your advice and installed Debian Lenny plus
all the 163 updates to the slower of my 2 PCs here (don't want to mess
with the other PC at the mo).

I then use RipOff to burn ogg files with my test audio CD and it took
about 7 minutes. I expect MP3 would be faster but couldn't find how to
get Lame. So this was much faster than Ubuntu on the same PC, which seems
to agree with all you said.

However at the end of all this it's still about twice as slow as using a
windows prog. And with several 100 CDs to do it is a huge penalty. So
sadly I'll have to use a windows prog.

Nevertheless thank you for all your help.
I learned a lot.
Dave
From: david on
On Thu, 03 Sep 2009 13:32:25 +0100, Dave N wrote:

> Sheridan Hutchinson wrote, on 03/09/09 11:44:
>> david wrote:
>>> sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/sdc gives me
>>>
>>> "setting using dma to 1 (on)"
>>
>> This is interesting, as from this I would take it that DMA is enabled
>> correctly.
>>
>>> tried changing the grub boot
>>> kernel parameters (combined_mode=ide or combined_mode=libata ) but
>>> still no luck.
>>
>> I'm glad you tried this. It's a shame because DMA using the old driver
>> (combined_mode=ide) should work fine with hdparm setting the DMA mode.
>>
>>> You say you use Debian. Do you think I should change to Lenny. Would
>>> it have the same problem?
>>
>> I'm out of suggestions as to why it's taking ~ 1/2 and hour to rip a CD
>> in Ubuntu. I have installed Debian to, and administrate many Debian
>> machines, and while I would expect it to work correctly (once hdparm is
>> setup) I could not guarantee it.
>>
>> That said, I would probably just pop another hard disk in the machine
>> and disconnect the old ones, do a quick install of lenny, KDE and K3b,
>> configure hdparm and try a rip.
>
> This smacks of the "bleedin obvious" but does the OP have verification
> enabled by default under Ubuntu?

OP here..a good question but no it was a straight rip and encode.
Cheers
Dave
From: david on
On Thu, 03 Sep 2009 14:05:17 +0100, Bernard Peek wrote:

> In message <h7od0q$pi2$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>, Dave N
> <nospam(a)werfner.org.uk.invalid> writes
>>Sheridan Hutchinson wrote, on 03/09/09 11:44:
>>> david wrote:
>>>> sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/sdc gives me
>>>>
>>>> "setting using dma to 1 (on)"
>>> This is interesting, as from this I would take it that DMA is
>>>enabled
>>> correctly.
>>>
>>>> tried changing the grub boot kernel parameters (combined_mode=ide
>>>>or combined_mode=libata ) but still no luck.
>>> I'm glad you tried this. It's a shame because DMA using the old
>>>driver
>>> (combined_mode=ide) should work fine with hdparm setting the DMA mode.
>>>
>>>> You say you use Debian. Do you think I should change to Lenny. Would
>>>>it have the same problem?
>>> I'm out of suggestions as to why it's taking ~ 1/2 and hour to rip a
>>>CD
>>> in Ubuntu. I have installed Debian to, and administrate many Debian
>>> machines, and while I would expect it to work correctly (once hdparm
>>> is setup) I could not guarantee it.
>>> That said, I would probably just pop another hard disk in the
>>>machine
>>> and disconnect the old ones, do a quick install of lenny, KDE and K3b,
>>> configure hdparm and try a rip.
>>
>>This smacks of the "bleedin obvious" but does the OP have verification
>>enabled by default under Ubuntu?
>
> Half to one hour sounds suspiciously like the playing time of a CD. I
> know that Sound Juicer has the option to play as well as rip the CD. If
> the ripping software is also playing the track it would explain the time
> taken.

Nice idea but no it wasn't playing the CD concurrently.
Thanks anyway
Dave