From: Tom Anderson on
On Wed, 28 Jul 2010, Arne Vajh?j wrote:

> On 28-07-2010 06:21, Pif wrote:
>> I would like to create a server that can send SMS on Linux (or
>> windows). I don't want to pay a provider on the Web and I would like
>> to use my own mobile phone chip as a "SMS modem".
>
> Why?
>
> I would expect the price you pay for SMS to be higher than what an SMS
> aggregator that buy millions from the telco pays.

If he already has a contract which gives him an SMS allowance, and his
planned usage is within that allowance and the operator's fair use
restrictions, then the marginal cost of sending messages via the phone is
zero. It's hard to get any cheaper than that.

tom

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From: Arne Vajhøj on
On 29-07-2010 05:33, Tom Anderson wrote:
> On Wed, 28 Jul 2010, Arne Vajh?j wrote:
>> On 28-07-2010 06:21, Pif wrote:
>>> I would like to create a server that can send SMS on Linux (or
>>> windows). I don't want to pay a provider on the Web and I would like
>>> to use my own mobile phone chip as a "SMS modem".
>>
>> Why?
>>
>> I would expect the price you pay for SMS to be higher than what an SMS
>> aggregator that buy millions from the telco pays.
>
> If he already has a contract which gives him an SMS allowance, and his
> planned usage is within that allowance and the operator's fair use
> restrictions, then the marginal cost of sending messages via the phone
> is zero. It's hard to get any cheaper than that.

True.

That model will not work for anything large scale.

Be he did not say anything about volume, so you are
correct.

Arne

From: Alan Gutierrez on
Arne Vajh�j wrote:
> On 29-07-2010 05:33, Tom Anderson wrote:
>> On Wed, 28 Jul 2010, Arne Vajh?j wrote:
>>> On 28-07-2010 06:21, Pif wrote:
>>>> I would like to create a server that can send SMS on Linux (or
>>>> windows). I don't want to pay a provider on the Web and I would like
>>>> to use my own mobile phone chip as a "SMS modem".
>>>
>>> Why?
>>>
>>> I would expect the price you pay for SMS to be higher than what an SMS
>>> aggregator that buy millions from the telco pays.
>>
>> If he already has a contract which gives him an SMS allowance, and his
>> planned usage is within that allowance and the operator's fair use
>> restrictions, then the marginal cost of sending messages via the phone
>> is zero. It's hard to get any cheaper than that.
>
> True.
>
> That model will not work for anything large scale.
>
> Be he did not say anything about volume, so you are
> correct.

I was struck by this exchange, where the intent of the OP is considered
in determining the correct answer. This has been hard for me to find in
the Java world, where it seems you need to first show that you are
advanced enough to ask a question before anyone will answer it. There is
a real anti-intellectual bent in some Java communities, yet this
community is knowledgeable, reasonable and direct. It is, for me, a real
find.

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From: Lothar Kimmeringer on
Alan Gutierrez wrote:

> Arne Vajh�j wrote:
>> On 29-07-2010 05:33, Tom Anderson wrote:
>>> On Wed, 28 Jul 2010, Arne Vajh?j wrote:
[Why do it this way discussion]
>
> I was struck by this exchange, where the intent of the OP is considered
> in determining the correct answer. This has been hard for me to find in
> the Java world, where it seems you need to first show that you are
> advanced enough to ask a question before anyone will answer it.

Sorry, this is not a free technichal support group where you simply
ask questions and people start working on a solution that 100%
fit the question. There are people out there that also think
for themselves "why is he trying to do it this way, maybe he's
running into the wrong direction".

I consider myself a Java professional and there was more than
one occasion where I asked questions like "Pif"'s and was treated
in the same way. Often enough I ended up with a solution much
more simple than the approach I originally intended.

Problem here is - at it seems to me - that "Pif" doesn't bother
to answer one single question that came back (write only mode),
so nobody is able (or willing) to give answers in more detail.


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From: Alan Gutierrez on
Lothar Kimmeringer wrote:
> Alan Gutierrez wrote:
>
>> Arne Vajh�j wrote:
>>> On 29-07-2010 05:33, Tom Anderson wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 28 Jul 2010, Arne Vajh?j wrote:
> [Why do it this way discussion]
>> I was struck by this exchange, where the intent of the OP is considered
>> in determining the correct answer. This has been hard for me to find in
>> the Java world, where it seems you need to first show that you are
>> advanced enough to ask a question before anyone will answer it.
>
> Sorry, this is not a free technichal support group where you simply
> ask questions and people start working on a solution that 100%
> fit the question. There are people out there that also think
> for themselves "why is he trying to do it this way, maybe he's
> running into the wrong direction".
>
> I consider myself a Java professional and there was more than
> one occasion where I asked questions like "Pif"'s and was treated
> in the same way. Often enough I ended up with a solution much
> more simple than the approach I originally intended.
>
> Problem here is - at it seems to me - that "Pif" doesn't bother
> to answer one single question that came back (write only mode),
> so nobody is able (or willing) to give answers in more detail.

Uh...

I was saying that it was admirable that those that responded considered
the OP's parameters in their debate. Probably because their depth of
knowledge allows them to consider peculiar requirements instead of
dismissing them.

So, I don't know why you're leading your response with "Sorry."

Alan Gutierrez


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