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From: Jeff on 26 Jul 2008 17:13 Additional info to help in resolving the problem (see below). I did an ipconfig /all on the problem laptop : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/1000 PL Network Conne ion Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-16-D4-22-C2-CE Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.101 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1 DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1 DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1 Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Saturday, July 26, 2008 4:57:50 PM Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Saturday, July 26, 2008 5:57:50 PM Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Netw k Connection Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-13-02-AB-32-8E Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.100 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : Checking my ZA firewall settings I see that this laptop "used to have" an ip of 192.168.1.102 (not 100, or 101) (The ip for the other working laptop is 192.168.1.101) So that is the conflict. How do I correct things on this laptop? Thanks. Jeff Jack (MVP-Networking). wrote: > Hi > You do not need any CD. Connect a computer via network cable to one > of the LAN ports (Not the Internet side). > Use your browser to log to the Router's menu (using its default IP and > password as describe in the manual) and configure the Router to work > as an Access Point. > The principle is described here. > Wireless Router as an Access Point - http://www.ezlan.net/router_AP.html > Jack (MS, MVP-Networking) > > "Jeff(a)unknown.com" <JeffMalka(a)orthohelp.com> wrote in message > news:uQ3GqC17IHA.1080(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >> I have an old smcwbr14-G router that I want to install on an XP PC >> and then use it as an additional wired access point but I can no >> longer find its installation CD. I went to their website to see if >> I could download it but >> all I could find to download is the manual. >> >> Is it possible to install a router without its setup CD? >> >> I reset it pressing on the reset button. >> When I connect it (Ethernet cable) with my PC and go to >> http://192.168.2.1/ >> (from the manual I downloaded) all I get is that the browser cannot >> connect. >> >> Anything else I can do? >> >> Thanks >> >> Jeff
From: Jeff on 26 Jul 2008 17:41 This is really wierd: After rebooting the laptop I decided to check something again and repeated the ipconfig /all and this time I get different results! Now the ethernet adapter's ip is 0.0.0.0 ! Windows IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : ToshJSM Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Mixed IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Netwo k Connection Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-13-02-AB-32-8E Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 0.0.0.0 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 0.0.0.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/1000 PL Network Connec ion Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-16-D4-22-C2-CE Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.101 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1 DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1 DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1 Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Saturday, July 26, 2008 5:32:59 PM Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Saturday, July 26, 2008 6:32:59 PM Jeff Jeff(a)unknown.com wrote: > Additional info to help in resolving the problem (see below). > > I did an ipconfig /all on the problem laptop : > > Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/1000 PL > Network Conne > ion > Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-16-D4-22-C2-CE > Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes > Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes > IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.101 > Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 > Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1 > DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1 > DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1 > Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Saturday, July 26, 2008 > 4:57:50 PM > Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Saturday, July 26, 2008 > 5:57:50 PM > > Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection: > > Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : > Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/Wireless > 3945ABG Netw > k Connection > Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-13-02-AB-32-8E > Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No > IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.100 > Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 > Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : > > Checking my ZA firewall settings I see that this laptop "used to > have" an ip of > 192.168.1.102 (not 100, or 101) > (The ip for the other working laptop is > 192.168.1.101) > > So that is the conflict. > > How do I correct things on this laptop? > > Thanks. > > Jeff > > Jack (MVP-Networking). wrote: >> Hi >> You do not need any CD. Connect a computer via network cable to one >> of the LAN ports (Not the Internet side). >> Use your browser to log to the Router's menu (using its default IP >> and password as describe in the manual) and configure the Router to >> work as an Access Point. >> The principle is described here. >> Wireless Router as an Access Point - >> http://www.ezlan.net/router_AP.html Jack (MS, MVP-Networking) >> >> "Jeff(a)unknown.com" <JeffMalka(a)orthohelp.com> wrote in message >> news:uQ3GqC17IHA.1080(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >>> I have an old smcwbr14-G router that I want to install on an XP PC >>> and then use it as an additional wired access point but I can no >>> longer find its installation CD. I went to their website to see if >>> I could download it but >>> all I could find to download is the manual. >>> >>> Is it possible to install a router without its setup CD? >>> >>> I reset it pressing on the reset button. >>> When I connect it (Ethernet cable) with my PC and go to >>> http://192.168.2.1/ >>> (from the manual I downloaded) all I get is that the browser cannot >>> connect. >>> >>> Anything else I can do? >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> Jeff
From: Jeff on 26 Jul 2008 17:54 Ok (big sigh of relief) I got internet access back through the wlan. But I did it because I went to network connections\properties\ and thanged the TCPIP properties setting to "Obtain an IP address automatically" and "Obtain DNS server address automatically". *But, is it not better to set it to "use the following IP address" which is what it was before I changed it? Thanks for any advice. Jeff Jack (MVP-Networking). wrote: > Hi > You do not need any CD. Connect a computer via network cable to one > of the LAN ports (Not the Internet side). > Use your browser to log to the Router's menu (using its default IP and > password as describe in the manual) and configure the Router to work > as an Access Point. > The principle is described here. > Wireless Router as an Access Point - http://www.ezlan.net/router_AP.html > Jack (MS, MVP-Networking) > > "Jeff(a)unknown.com" <JeffMalka(a)orthohelp.com> wrote in message > news:uQ3GqC17IHA.1080(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >> I have an old smcwbr14-G router that I want to install on an XP PC >> and then use it as an additional wired access point but I can no >> longer find its installation CD. I went to their website to see if >> I could download it but >> all I could find to download is the manual. >> >> Is it possible to install a router without its setup CD? >> >> I reset it pressing on the reset button. >> When I connect it (Ethernet cable) with my PC and go to >> http://192.168.2.1/ >> (from the manual I downloaded) all I get is that the browser cannot >> connect. >> >> Anything else I can do? >> >> Thanks >> >> Jeff
From: Lem on 26 Jul 2008 17:56 Jack (MVP-Networking). wrote: > Hi > You do not need any CD. Connect a computer via network cable to one of > the LAN ports (Not the Internet side). > Use your browser to log to the Router's menu (using its default IP and > password as describe in the manual) and configure the Router to work as > an Access Point. > The principle is described here. > Wireless Router as an Access Point - http://www.ezlan.net/router_AP.html > Jack (MS, MVP-Networking) > > "Jeff(a)unknown.com" <JeffMalka(a)orthohelp.com> wrote in message > news:uQ3GqC17IHA.1080(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >> I have an old smcwbr14-G router that I want to install on an XP PC and >> then >> use it as an additional wired access point but I can no longer find its >> installation CD. I went to their website to see if I could download >> it but >> all I could find to download is the manual. >> >> Is it possible to install a router without its setup CD? >> >> I reset it pressing on the reset button. >> When I connect it (Ethernet cable) with my PC and go to >> http://192.168.2.1/ >> (from the manual I downloaded) all I get is that the browser cannot >> connect. >> >> Anything else I can do? >> >> Thanks >> >> Jeff >> >> >> > It's not clear from your posts how you have things set up, but here's some info that may help you figure out what's going on. On any single local area network (LAN), no matter whether some of the computers are connected via wire and others via wireless, all must be in the same subnet in order to communicate properly. The subnet is configured with a combination of the IP address and the subnet mask. Moreover, each computer must have a unique IP address. In most home LANs, including yours, the subnet mask is set to 255.255.255.0. What this means is that the first 3 octets of all IP addresses on the LAN *must* be the same, while the last one can be anything from 001 through 255 (although 255 generally is reserved for "broadcast" messaging). Thus, if the IP address of your router (the one that you use to access the router's configuration utility) is 192.168.1.1, all of the other computers on the LAN should have IP addresses between 192.168.1.2 and 192.168.1.254. The "default gateway" in this example would be 192.168.1.1 because the router *is* the gateway between the LAN and the Internet. In general, home routers include a DHCP server that automatically provides IP addresses to all of the computers connected to the router (it doesn't matter if they are connected via wire or wireless). A router's DHCP server should be configured to allocate IP addresses in the same subnet as the router. You should have only one DHCP server on any given subnet. If you forgot to disable the DHCP server of the second router, that may be the cause of your problem. If the second DHCP server is allocating IP addresses in a different subnet, some computers will not be able to communicate with others, but should be able to get to the Internet. On the other hand, if you have two DHCP servers allocating IP addresses in the same range, that easily could result in two different computers obtaining the same IP address. That, as you have discovered, will not work. As far as your wireless connection is concerned, you should get to the list of wireless networks (e.g., View Available Wireless Networks > Change Order of Preferred Networks) and delete all of the entries. Then go back to the View Available Wireless Networks screen, refresh it, and then login to your wireless network. This should take care of any lingering incorrect wireless configurations. -- Lem -- MS-MVP To the moon and back with 2K words of RAM and 36K words of ROM. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer http://history.nasa.gov/afj/compessay.htm
From: Lem on 26 Jul 2008 18:20
Jeff(a)unknown.com wrote: > Ok (big sigh of relief) I got internet access back through the wlan. > > But I did it because I went to network connections\properties\ and thanged > the TCPIP properties setting to > "Obtain an IP address automatically" > and > "Obtain DNS server address automatically". > > *But, is it not better to set it to "use the following IP address" which is > what it was before I changed it? > > Thanks for any advice. > > Jeff > > > > Jack (MVP-Networking). wrote: >> Hi >> You do not need any CD. Connect a computer via network cable to one >> of the LAN ports (Not the Internet side). >> Use your browser to log to the Router's menu (using its default IP and >> password as describe in the manual) and configure the Router to work >> as an Access Point. >> The principle is described here. >> Wireless Router as an Access Point - http://www.ezlan.net/router_AP.html >> Jack (MS, MVP-Networking) >> >> "Jeff(a)unknown.com" <JeffMalka(a)orthohelp.com> wrote in message >> news:uQ3GqC17IHA.1080(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >>> I have an old smcwbr14-G router that I want to install on an XP PC >>> and then use it as an additional wired access point but I can no >>> longer find its installation CD. I went to their website to see if >>> I could download it but >>> all I could find to download is the manual. >>> >>> Is it possible to install a router without its setup CD? >>> >>> I reset it pressing on the reset button. >>> When I connect it (Ethernet cable) with my PC and go to >>> http://192.168.2.1/ >>> (from the manual I downloaded) all I get is that the browser cannot >>> connect. >>> >>> Anything else I can do? >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> Jeff > > You can use either "Obtain an IP address automatically" or set it yourself manually (this often is called using a static IP). Some folks suggest using static IP addresses (particularly for things like network printers) so that there's never any question about "where they are". But if you set a static IP, you have to know what you're doing. See my other post for some relevant detail. -- Lem -- MS-MVP To the moon and back with 2K words of RAM and 36K words of ROM. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer http://history.nasa.gov/afj/compessay.htm |