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From: Robert Israel on 16 May 2010 13:52 Ray Koopman <koopman(a)sfu.ca> writes: > On May 14, 4:57 pm, Ray Koopman <koop...(a)sfu.ca> wrote: > > f(x) = (exp(-1/x) - x exp(-1/(2-x)))/(exp(-1/x) - exp(-1/(2-x))) > > > > also works. > > f(x) = 1 - exp(2x/(x-2)) is simpler, and the plot is nicer. But it doesn't join smoothly to x at x=0: f'''(0) = -1/2. Well, maybe kj would be satisfied with a C^2 join, but I interpreted "smooth" as C^infty. -- Robert Israel israel(a)math.MyUniversitysInitials.ca Department of Mathematics http://www.math.ubc.ca/~israel University of British Columbia Vancouver, BC, Canada
From: Ray Koopman on 16 May 2010 16:11 On May 16, 10:52 am, Robert Israel <isr...(a)math.MyUniversitysInitials.ca> wrote: > Ray Koopman <koop...(a)sfu.ca> writes: >> On May 14, 4:57 pm, Ray Koopman <koop...(a)sfu.ca> wrote: >>> f(x) = (exp(-1/x) - x exp(-1/(2-x)))/(exp(-1/x) - exp(-1/(2-x))) >>> >>> also works. >> >> f(x) = 1 - exp(2x/(x-2)) is simpler, and the plot is nicer. > > But it doesn't join smoothly to x at x=0: f'''(0) = -1/2. > Well, maybe kj would be satisfied with a C^2 join, but I interpreted > "smooth" as C^infty. Yes, I wondered about that.
From: Axel Vogt on 16 May 2010 16:29 Robert Israel wrote: > Ray Koopman <koopman(a)sfu.ca> writes: > >> On May 14, 4:57 pm, Ray Koopman <koop...(a)sfu.ca> wrote: >>> f(x) = (exp(-1/x) - x exp(-1/(2-x)))/(exp(-1/x) - exp(-1/(2-x))) >>> >>> also works. >> f(x) = 1 - exp(2x/(x-2)) is simpler, and the plot is nicer. > > But it doesn't join smoothly to x at x=0: f'''(0) = -1/2. > Well, maybe kj would be satisfied with a C^2 join, but I interpreted > "smooth" as C^infty. Is that something similar like "partition of 1" in Analysis?
From: kj on 17 May 2010 16:10 In <rbisrael.20100516174609$2241(a)news.acm.uiuc.edu> Robert Israel <israel(a)math.MyUniversitysInitials.ca> writes: >Ray Koopman <koopman(a)sfu.ca> writes: >> On May 14, 4:57 pm, Ray Koopman <koop...(a)sfu.ca> wrote: >> > f(x) = (exp(-1/x) - x exp(-1/(2-x)))/(exp(-1/x) - exp(-1/(2-x))) >> > >> > also works. >> >> f(x) = 1 - exp(2x/(x-2)) is simpler, and the plot is nicer. >But it doesn't join smoothly to x at x=0: f'''(0) = -1/2. >Well, maybe kj would be satisfied with a C^2 join, but I interpreted >"smooth" as C^infty. Actually, I did have C^infty in mind. I also had in mind, but neglected to specify, that the second derivative of the resulting curve would be <= 0. I thought that there was a pretty standard recipe for constructing a "connector" having these properties, but maybe my memory is tricking me.
From: Ray Koopman on 17 May 2010 18:42 On May 17, 1:10 pm, kj <no.em...(a)please.post> wrote: > In <rbisrael.20100516174609$2...(a)news.acm.uiuc.edu> Robert Israel > <isr...(a)math.MyUniversitysInitials.ca> writes: >> Ray Koopman <koop...(a)sfu.ca> writes: >>> On May 14, 4:57 pm, Ray Koopman <koop...(a)sfu.ca> wrote: >>> >>>> f(x) = (exp(-1/x) - x exp(-1/(2-x)))/(exp(-1/x) - exp(-1/(2-x))) >>>> also works. >>> >>> f(x) = 1 - exp(2x/(x-2)) is simpler, and the plot is nicer. >> >> But it doesn't join smoothly to x at x=0: f'''(0) = -1/2. >> Well, maybe kj would be satisfied with a C^2 join, >> but I interpreted "smooth" as C^infty. > > Actually, I did have C^infty in mind. > > I also had in mind, but neglected to specify, that the second > derivative of the resulting curve would be <= 0. If we call Robert's function f1 and my first function f2 then f(x) = (r*f1(x) + f2(x))/(r + 1) will have C^infty splices at both 0 & 2. Taking r = .8812 will approximately maximize the minimum f", subject to f" <= 0.
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