From: Darklight on
David Bolt wrote:

> On Monday 15 Feb 2010 10:05, while playing with a tin of spray paint,
> houghi painted this mural:
>
>> J. van der Waa wrote:
>>> But you might get a pleasant surprise: it can be faster.....
>>
>> Sure ssd will be faster, but will I as a user notice this in such a way
>> that I want to buy it? I doubt it.
>
> You probably won't notice that much difference, although there will be
> some speed increase purely because there's no head to move and no disc
> to rotate. Where you would notice the difference between an SSD and a
> normal HD is when used in a laptop. Again, you probably won't see much
> difference in transfer speeds, but you will see a large difference in
> power usage, and so battery life.
>
>
> Regards,
> David Bolt
>
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dt6VbOY3xE0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCYJekX5HFA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cnRlQFf5X8
From: Chris Cox on
On Mon, 2010-02-15 at 08:17 +0000, Darklight wrote:
> J. van der Waa wrote:
>
> > houghi wrote:
> >> Darklight wrote:
> >>> does any one know how well opensuse 11.2 handles ssd
> >>
> >> What problems are you expecting? I have not heard of any problems. ssd
> >> is just another type of HD merely explaining the technical details of
> >> how it works on the inside. The outside is just sata.
> >>
> >> houghi
> > Couldn't agree more :-)
> > But you might get a pleasant surprise: it can be faster.....
> >
> > Joost
>
> thanks for your reply i know it will be faster just wanted to know if there
> would or could be potential problems.

The problem is the NORMAL common problem of how much reading and
(esp.) writing might be done as part of normal operation...

SSD technology is advancing, but a bit slowly in some areas.

Minimizing writes is still a good idea. Future filesystems and
options on current filesystems might work better with SSD in
the near future.

In general, most people have ignored the issue and deployed anyhow.




From: David Bolt on
On Monday 15 Feb 2010 20:04, while playing with a tin of spray paint,
Darklight painted this mural:

> David Bolt wrote:

>> You probably won't notice that much difference, although there will be
>> some speed increase purely because there's no head to move and no disc
>> to rotate. Where you would notice the difference between an SSD and a
>> normal HD is when used in a laptop. Again, you probably won't see much
>> difference in transfer speeds, but you will see a large difference in
>> power usage, and so battery life.
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>> David Bolt
>>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dt6VbOY3xE0
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCYJekX5HFA
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cnRlQFf5X8

Okay, so you might notice a slight improvement is read/write speeds.


Regards,
David Bolt

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From: Paul J Gans on
David Bolt <blacklist-me(a)davjam.org> wrote:
>On Monday 15 Feb 2010 10:05, while playing with a tin of spray paint,
>houghi painted this mural:

>> J. van der Waa wrote:
>>> But you might get a pleasant surprise: it can be faster.....
>>
>> Sure ssd will be faster, but will I as a user notice this in such a way
>> that I want to buy it? I doubt it.

>You probably won't notice that much difference, although there will be
>some speed increase purely because there's no head to move and no disc
>to rotate. Where you would notice the difference between an SSD and a
>normal HD is when used in a laptop. Again, you probably won't see much
>difference in transfer speeds, but you will see a large difference in
>power usage, and so battery life.


Booting should be faster with SSD.

And some programs will start faster.

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--- Paul J. Gans
From: Paul J Gans on
houghi <houghi(a)houghi.org.invalid> wrote:
>Paul J Gans wrote:
>> Booting should be faster with SSD.
>>
>> And some programs will start faster.

>And as we have seen from the videos, it will gain you a minute. The
>lifetime of a business portable is 3 years. Lets make that 5 years. And
>make it 300 working days. That is 1500 minutes or 25 hours.
>Yep, a whole day. or three working days.

>Now how big do you want the storage to be nowadays? I will go for 256GB
>SSD and compare it with 250GB HDD. That is 669EUR(1) andd 46EUR(2)
>A difference of 623 EUR.

>So I can understand that for some it will be worth it. For me not by a
>long shot, yet. But hey, everybody needs to make their own calculations
>and I hope many select SSD now as early adopters, so in 10 years they
>will cost almost nothing when I want to buy some. That is when I suppose
>my 4 TB is full and I need more/newer storage.

>(1) http://www.alternate.be/html/productDetails.html?artno=IMIM29
>(2) http://www.alternate.be/html/productDetails.html?artno=AABWG3
>I have sorted both by price per GB and simply selected the cheapest.

I agree with you. I shall not be moving to SSD for general use
for a long while yet. Hard drives are just too cheap.

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--- Paul J. Gans