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From: Peter Eisentraut on 18 Jul 2010 04:35 On ons, 2010-07-14 at 10:48 -0400, Robert Haas wrote: > On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 10:02 PM, Josh Berkus <josh(a)agliodbs.com> wrote: > >> An actual plan here might look like "let's flip it before 9.1alpha1 > >> so we can get some alpha testing cycles on it" ... > > > > "Hey, let's flip it in 9.1 CF 1, so that we can have some alpha testing > > cycles on it." > > Should we do this? Patch attached. I think there are two ways we can do this, seeing that most appear to be in favor of doing it in the first place: Either we just flip the default, make a note in the release notes, and see what happens. Or we spend some time now and make, say, a list of driver versions and application versions that work with standard_conforming_strings = on, and then decide based on that, and also make that list a public resource for packagers etc. -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers(a)postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers
From: "David E. Wheeler" on 18 Jul 2010 12:42 On Jul 18, 2010, at 1:35 AM, Peter Eisentraut wrote: > I think there are two ways we can do this, seeing that most appear to be > in favor of doing it in the first place: Either we just flip the > default, make a note in the release notes, and see what happens. Or we > spend some time now and make, say, a list of driver versions and > application versions that work with standard_conforming_strings = on, > and then decide based on that, and also make that list a public resource > for packagers etc. Do both. Turn them on, then make a list and inform driver maintainers who need to update. They've got a year, after all. Best, David -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers(a)postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers
From: Tom Lane on 18 Jul 2010 13:16 "David E. Wheeler" <david(a)kineticode.com> writes: > On Jul 18, 2010, at 1:35 AM, Peter Eisentraut wrote: >> I think there are two ways we can do this, seeing that most appear to be >> in favor of doing it in the first place: Either we just flip the >> default, make a note in the release notes, and see what happens. Or we >> spend some time now and make, say, a list of driver versions and >> application versions that work with standard_conforming_strings = on, >> and then decide based on that, and also make that list a public resource >> for packagers etc. > Do both. Turn them on, then make a list and inform driver maintainers who need to update. They've got a year, after all. Yeah. If we wait for driver authors to do something, we'll never make this change at all. The idea of committing it now is to give them a shove, *and* enough time to respond. regards, tom lane -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers(a)postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers
From: Peter Eisentraut on 19 Jul 2010 17:04 On sön, 2010-07-18 at 09:42 -0700, David E. Wheeler wrote: > On Jul 18, 2010, at 1:35 AM, Peter Eisentraut wrote: > > > I think there are two ways we can do this, seeing that most appear to be > > in favor of doing it in the first place: Either we just flip the > > default, make a note in the release notes, and see what happens. Or we > > spend some time now and make, say, a list of driver versions and > > application versions that work with standard_conforming_strings = on, > > and then decide based on that, and also make that list a public resource > > for packagers etc. > > Do both. Turn them on, then make a list and inform driver maintainers who need to update. They've got a year, after all. Here we go then: http://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Standard_conforming_strings -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers(a)postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers
From: Robert Haas on 19 Jul 2010 20:32 On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 5:04 PM, Peter Eisentraut <peter_e(a)gmx.net> wrote: > On s�n, 2010-07-18 at 09:42 -0700, David E. Wheeler wrote: >> On Jul 18, 2010, at 1:35 AM, Peter Eisentraut wrote: >> >> > I think there are two ways we can do this, seeing that most appear to be >> > in favor of doing it in the first place: �Either we just flip the >> > default, make a note in the release notes, and see what happens. �Or we >> > spend some time now and make, say, a list of driver versions and >> > application versions that work with standard_conforming_strings = on, >> > and then decide based on that, and also make that list a public resource >> > for packagers etc. >> >> Do both. Turn them on, then make a list and inform driver maintainers who need to update. They've got a year, after all. > > Here we go then: > http://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Standard_conforming_strings Looks like a good start. We might want to make an "open items for 9.1" page and, as a first such open item, add a link to this page. Since it seems we have consensus, I will commit the patch. -- Robert Haas EnterpriseDB: http://www.enterprisedb.com The Enterprise Postgres Company -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers(a)postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers
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