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From: Jeff Jones on 29 May 2010 12:29 On Sat, 29 May 2010 16:22:25 GMT, "Dudley Hanks" <dhanks(a)blind-apertures.ca> wrote: > >"Jeff Jones" <jj197109671(a)mailinator.com> wrote in message >news:2gf206t3hqaco4vqskqgcobouvr6ckavkp(a)4ax.com... >> On Sat, 29 May 2010 16:14:20 GMT, "Dudley Hanks" >> <dhanks(a)blind-apertures.ca> wrote: >> >>> >>>"Jeff Jones" <jj197109671(a)mailinator.com> wrote in message >>>news:o4e206h5suvhev2dd5fg043jkn727sbkj9(a)4ax.com... >>>> On Sat, 29 May 2010 15:43:29 GMT, "Dudley Hanks" >>>> <dhanks(a)blind-apertures.ca> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>>"Jeff Jones" <jj197109671(a)mailinator.com> wrote in message >>>>>news:afj106lbjnll89r0o57q1uk2vhtgbgpl3r(a)4ax.com... >>>>>> On Sat, 29 May 2010 05:07:56 GMT, "Dudley Hanks" >>>>>> <dhanks(a)blind-apertures.ca> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>http://www.blind-apertures.ca/LatestPics/StillTrying.jpg >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Will we ever get it right? >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Take Care, >>>>>>>Dudley >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> It just gets sadder and sadder. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Your just PO'd you didn't shoot it... >>>>> >>>>>Take Care, >>>>>Dudley >>>>> >>>> >>>> Yeah, that's it. I'm upset because I didn't manage to create the worst >>>> possible crapshot of a blurry apple, blurry fingers, some tacky >>>> upholstery >>>> and an overexposed blank living-room wall. What a masterpiece! Created >>>> by >>>> someone who can't even tell where his left and right hands are because >>>> there's no part of any of the image that says, "this is the subject I'm >>>> trying to shoot". Damn, I'm so envious. Any 2 year-old randomly pressing >>>> the shutter button could have done better than you. When are you going >>>> to >>>> learn, any of you, that you CANNOT depend on auto-focus, auto-exposure, >>>> or >>>> ANY auto modes on any camera? This is why you'll never be a >>>> photographer. >>>> No camera firmware programmer in the world is going to be able to turn >>>> you >>>> into a photographer. >>>> >>>> Okay, enough of entertaining twit trolls like you. I have far better >>>> things >>>> to do than give attention to the terminally self-deluded. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>>Who says I wanted the focus on the apple / fingers? >>> >>>The title was "Still trying to decide," which alludes back to the old Adam >>>/ >>>Eve episode. Given the title, the apple indicates the choice between good >>>and evil, nature and commerce, the simple life and the good life. That >>>choice isn't alway easy / clear. >>> >>>The partial glimpse of the over-exposed wall and furniture in the >>>background >>>represent our tendency to put too much emphasis on comfort and security, >>>over-looking the ethics of our choice, which is why the apple isn't clear. >>> >>>Isn't it interesting how the non-traditional use of photographic elements >>>can produce a distinct impression. >>> >>>But, you'll probably never put that much thought into a production image, >>>let alone a test shot... >>> >>>Take Care, >>>Dudley >>> >> >> If you have to explain a photo (or in your case, invent stories to try to >> justify why you're a failure as a photographer), then you have failed. >> Either way. >> >> Why don't you go bother your daughter for attention? Or has she had enough >> of your bullshit too? >> >> >> > >So, Da Vinci is a failure because people are still debating the Mona Lisa? >By your logic, everybody should just "know" what it's all about? Da Vinci wasn't a failure, because he didn't sit there like a whiny baby trying to make excuses for what he was trying to paint. Nor did he include paragraphs of text trying to convince others that what they are seeing is different than what he had intended.. Those that are wasting their lives debating his art are the failures. Just as you are. YOU ARE NOT AN ARTIST! BY ANY STRETCH OF THE IMAGINATION. Get that through your fuckin' thick skull. You're a lame crapshooter who can't even see what he's snapping off with his auto-everything cameras. That's all you are and will ever be. Oh, and a troll on usenet. That too. That's all you are. Why oh why did Gates have to include "accessibility" modes in his software? Now we have to put up with delusional twits like you.
From: Dudley Hanks on 29 May 2010 12:48 "Jeff Jones" <jj197109671(a)mailinator.com> wrote in message news:6uf206tgvbkjst575vono41ca312dahac5(a)4ax.com... > On Sat, 29 May 2010 16:22:25 GMT, "Dudley Hanks" > <dhanks(a)blind-apertures.ca> wrote: > >> >>"Jeff Jones" <jj197109671(a)mailinator.com> wrote in message >>news:2gf206t3hqaco4vqskqgcobouvr6ckavkp(a)4ax.com... >>> On Sat, 29 May 2010 16:14:20 GMT, "Dudley Hanks" >>> <dhanks(a)blind-apertures.ca> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>>"Jeff Jones" <jj197109671(a)mailinator.com> wrote in message >>>>news:o4e206h5suvhev2dd5fg043jkn727sbkj9(a)4ax.com... >>>>> On Sat, 29 May 2010 15:43:29 GMT, "Dudley Hanks" >>>>> <dhanks(a)blind-apertures.ca> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>"Jeff Jones" <jj197109671(a)mailinator.com> wrote in message >>>>>>news:afj106lbjnll89r0o57q1uk2vhtgbgpl3r(a)4ax.com... >>>>>>> On Sat, 29 May 2010 05:07:56 GMT, "Dudley Hanks" >>>>>>> <dhanks(a)blind-apertures.ca> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>http://www.blind-apertures.ca/LatestPics/StillTrying.jpg >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Will we ever get it right? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Take Care, >>>>>>>>Dudley >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It just gets sadder and sadder. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>Your just PO'd you didn't shoot it... >>>>>> >>>>>>Take Care, >>>>>>Dudley >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Yeah, that's it. I'm upset because I didn't manage to create the worst >>>>> possible crapshot of a blurry apple, blurry fingers, some tacky >>>>> upholstery >>>>> and an overexposed blank living-room wall. What a masterpiece! Created >>>>> by >>>>> someone who can't even tell where his left and right hands are because >>>>> there's no part of any of the image that says, "this is the subject >>>>> I'm >>>>> trying to shoot". Damn, I'm so envious. Any 2 year-old randomly >>>>> pressing >>>>> the shutter button could have done better than you. When are you going >>>>> to >>>>> learn, any of you, that you CANNOT depend on auto-focus, >>>>> auto-exposure, >>>>> or >>>>> ANY auto modes on any camera? This is why you'll never be a >>>>> photographer. >>>>> No camera firmware programmer in the world is going to be able to turn >>>>> you >>>>> into a photographer. >>>>> >>>>> Okay, enough of entertaining twit trolls like you. I have far better >>>>> things >>>>> to do than give attention to the terminally self-deluded. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>Who says I wanted the focus on the apple / fingers? >>>> >>>>The title was "Still trying to decide," which alludes back to the old >>>>Adam >>>>/ >>>>Eve episode. Given the title, the apple indicates the choice between >>>>good >>>>and evil, nature and commerce, the simple life and the good life. That >>>>choice isn't alway easy / clear. >>>> >>>>The partial glimpse of the over-exposed wall and furniture in the >>>>background >>>>represent our tendency to put too much emphasis on comfort and security, >>>>over-looking the ethics of our choice, which is why the apple isn't >>>>clear. >>>> >>>>Isn't it interesting how the non-traditional use of photographic >>>>elements >>>>can produce a distinct impression. >>>> >>>>But, you'll probably never put that much thought into a production >>>>image, >>>>let alone a test shot... >>>> >>>>Take Care, >>>>Dudley >>>> >>> >>> If you have to explain a photo (or in your case, invent stories to try >>> to >>> justify why you're a failure as a photographer), then you have failed. >>> Either way. >>> >>> Why don't you go bother your daughter for attention? Or has she had >>> enough >>> of your bullshit too? >>> >>> >>> >> >>So, Da Vinci is a failure because people are still debating the Mona Lisa? >>By your logic, everybody should just "know" what it's all about? > > Da Vinci wasn't a failure, because he didn't sit there like a whiny baby > trying to make excuses for what he was trying to paint. Nor did he include > paragraphs of text trying to convince others that what they are seeing is > different than what he had intended.. Those that are wasting their lives > debating his art are the failures. Just as you are. > > YOU ARE NOT AN ARTIST! BY ANY STRETCH OF THE IMAGINATION. Get that through > your fuckin' thick skull. You're a lame crapshooter who can't even see > what > he's snapping off with his auto-everything cameras. That's all you are and > will ever be. > > Oh, and a troll on usenet. That too. That's all you are. > > Why oh why did Gates have to include "accessibility" modes in his > software? > Now we have to put up with delusional twits like you. > > I must have struck a nerve with that last comment... :) Anyway, think about it (if you can), I title a pic "still trying to decide," which contains an apple as the largest element. Most, sane, people with any kind of art / literature / religious background (which you profess to possess) will automatically think "Adam and Eve" / "The Fall of Man," etc... But, you don't... Instead, you accuse me of "inventing" a rationale for a pic I've already labelled with a title that points in the direction of my explanation... Then, you go off on a rant about Da Vinci being so great because your own logic paints him and I in a similar light? And, your logic makes my explanation / image seem rather, er, well, artistic? Now, GR, you've gone from making yourself look like a bigot to making yourself look like a completely bigotted airhead... Thanks, you're making me look good ... ;) Trolling trolls is SOOOO much fun... ;) Take Care, Dudley
From: Jeff Jones on 29 May 2010 13:33 On Sat, 29 May 2010 16:48:06 GMT, "Dudley Hanks" <dhanks(a)blind-apertures.ca> wrote: > >"Jeff Jones" <jj197109671(a)mailinator.com> wrote in message >news:6uf206tgvbkjst575vono41ca312dahac5(a)4ax.com... >> On Sat, 29 May 2010 16:22:25 GMT, "Dudley Hanks" >> <dhanks(a)blind-apertures.ca> wrote: >> >>> >>>"Jeff Jones" <jj197109671(a)mailinator.com> wrote in message >>>news:2gf206t3hqaco4vqskqgcobouvr6ckavkp(a)4ax.com... >>>> On Sat, 29 May 2010 16:14:20 GMT, "Dudley Hanks" >>>> <dhanks(a)blind-apertures.ca> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>>"Jeff Jones" <jj197109671(a)mailinator.com> wrote in message >>>>>news:o4e206h5suvhev2dd5fg043jkn727sbkj9(a)4ax.com... >>>>>> On Sat, 29 May 2010 15:43:29 GMT, "Dudley Hanks" >>>>>> <dhanks(a)blind-apertures.ca> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>"Jeff Jones" <jj197109671(a)mailinator.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>news:afj106lbjnll89r0o57q1uk2vhtgbgpl3r(a)4ax.com... >>>>>>>> On Sat, 29 May 2010 05:07:56 GMT, "Dudley Hanks" >>>>>>>> <dhanks(a)blind-apertures.ca> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>http://www.blind-apertures.ca/LatestPics/StillTrying.jpg >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Will we ever get it right? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Take Care, >>>>>>>>>Dudley >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It just gets sadder and sadder. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Your just PO'd you didn't shoot it... >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Take Care, >>>>>>>Dudley >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Yeah, that's it. I'm upset because I didn't manage to create the worst >>>>>> possible crapshot of a blurry apple, blurry fingers, some tacky >>>>>> upholstery >>>>>> and an overexposed blank living-room wall. What a masterpiece! Created >>>>>> by >>>>>> someone who can't even tell where his left and right hands are because >>>>>> there's no part of any of the image that says, "this is the subject >>>>>> I'm >>>>>> trying to shoot". Damn, I'm so envious. Any 2 year-old randomly >>>>>> pressing >>>>>> the shutter button could have done better than you. When are you going >>>>>> to >>>>>> learn, any of you, that you CANNOT depend on auto-focus, >>>>>> auto-exposure, >>>>>> or >>>>>> ANY auto modes on any camera? This is why you'll never be a >>>>>> photographer. >>>>>> No camera firmware programmer in the world is going to be able to turn >>>>>> you >>>>>> into a photographer. >>>>>> >>>>>> Okay, enough of entertaining twit trolls like you. I have far better >>>>>> things >>>>>> to do than give attention to the terminally self-deluded. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Who says I wanted the focus on the apple / fingers? >>>>> >>>>>The title was "Still trying to decide," which alludes back to the old >>>>>Adam >>>>>/ >>>>>Eve episode. Given the title, the apple indicates the choice between >>>>>good >>>>>and evil, nature and commerce, the simple life and the good life. That >>>>>choice isn't alway easy / clear. >>>>> >>>>>The partial glimpse of the over-exposed wall and furniture in the >>>>>background >>>>>represent our tendency to put too much emphasis on comfort and security, >>>>>over-looking the ethics of our choice, which is why the apple isn't >>>>>clear. >>>>> >>>>>Isn't it interesting how the non-traditional use of photographic >>>>>elements >>>>>can produce a distinct impression. >>>>> >>>>>But, you'll probably never put that much thought into a production >>>>>image, >>>>>let alone a test shot... >>>>> >>>>>Take Care, >>>>>Dudley >>>>> >>>> >>>> If you have to explain a photo (or in your case, invent stories to try >>>> to >>>> justify why you're a failure as a photographer), then you have failed. >>>> Either way. >>>> >>>> Why don't you go bother your daughter for attention? Or has she had >>>> enough >>>> of your bullshit too? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>>So, Da Vinci is a failure because people are still debating the Mona Lisa? >>>By your logic, everybody should just "know" what it's all about? >> >> Da Vinci wasn't a failure, because he didn't sit there like a whiny baby >> trying to make excuses for what he was trying to paint. Nor did he include >> paragraphs of text trying to convince others that what they are seeing is >> different than what he had intended.. Those that are wasting their lives >> debating his art are the failures. Just as you are. >> >> YOU ARE NOT AN ARTIST! BY ANY STRETCH OF THE IMAGINATION. Get that through >> your fuckin' thick skull. You're a lame crapshooter who can't even see >> what >> he's snapping off with his auto-everything cameras. That's all you are and >> will ever be. >> >> Oh, and a troll on usenet. That too. That's all you are. >> >> Why oh why did Gates have to include "accessibility" modes in his >> software? >> Now we have to put up with delusional twits like you. >> >> > >I must have struck a nerve with that last comment... > >:) > >Anyway, think about it (if you can), I title a pic "still trying to decide," >which contains an apple as the largest element. Most, sane, people with any >kind of art / literature / religious background (which you profess to >possess) will automatically think "Adam and Eve" / "The Fall of Man," etc... >But, you don't... > >Instead, you accuse me of "inventing" a rationale for a pic I've already >labelled with a title that points in the direction of my explanation... > >Then, you go off on a rant about Da Vinci being so great because your own >logic paints him and I in a similar light? And, your logic makes my >explanation / image seem rather, er, well, artistic? > >Now, GR, you've gone from making yourself look like a bigot to making >yourself look like a completely bigotted airhead... > >Thanks, you're making me look good ... ;) > >Trolling trolls is SOOOO much fun... ;) > >Take Care, >Dudley > The only advice left for you ... seek out practitioners that prescribe anti-psychotic medications. Your refusal to accept your station in life now has left you 100% delusional. Excuse me while I go visit rec.arts.dancing and now discuss the same thing with a quadriplegic who insists he's going to be a great ballet dancer one day if only he keeps flopping around on the floor long enough. His problem is identical to yours.
From: Dudley Hanks on 29 May 2010 13:49 "Jeff Jones" <jj197109671(a)mailinator.com> wrote in message news:9mj206pa7vv2afnsnbdr58ck43m9f76cqc(a)4ax.com... > On Sat, 29 May 2010 16:48:06 GMT, "Dudley Hanks" > <dhanks(a)blind-apertures.ca> wrote: > >> >>"Jeff Jones" <jj197109671(a)mailinator.com> wrote in message >>news:6uf206tgvbkjst575vono41ca312dahac5(a)4ax.com... >>> On Sat, 29 May 2010 16:22:25 GMT, "Dudley Hanks" >>> <dhanks(a)blind-apertures.ca> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>>"Jeff Jones" <jj197109671(a)mailinator.com> wrote in message >>>>news:2gf206t3hqaco4vqskqgcobouvr6ckavkp(a)4ax.com... >>>>> On Sat, 29 May 2010 16:14:20 GMT, "Dudley Hanks" >>>>> <dhanks(a)blind-apertures.ca> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>"Jeff Jones" <jj197109671(a)mailinator.com> wrote in message >>>>>>news:o4e206h5suvhev2dd5fg043jkn727sbkj9(a)4ax.com... >>>>>>> On Sat, 29 May 2010 15:43:29 GMT, "Dudley Hanks" >>>>>>> <dhanks(a)blind-apertures.ca> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>"Jeff Jones" <jj197109671(a)mailinator.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>news:afj106lbjnll89r0o57q1uk2vhtgbgpl3r(a)4ax.com... >>>>>>>>> On Sat, 29 May 2010 05:07:56 GMT, "Dudley Hanks" >>>>>>>>> <dhanks(a)blind-apertures.ca> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>http://www.blind-apertures.ca/LatestPics/StillTrying.jpg >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Will we ever get it right? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Take Care, >>>>>>>>>>Dudley >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> It just gets sadder and sadder. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Your just PO'd you didn't shoot it... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Take Care, >>>>>>>>Dudley >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Yeah, that's it. I'm upset because I didn't manage to create the >>>>>>> worst >>>>>>> possible crapshot of a blurry apple, blurry fingers, some tacky >>>>>>> upholstery >>>>>>> and an overexposed blank living-room wall. What a masterpiece! >>>>>>> Created >>>>>>> by >>>>>>> someone who can't even tell where his left and right hands are >>>>>>> because >>>>>>> there's no part of any of the image that says, "this is the subject >>>>>>> I'm >>>>>>> trying to shoot". Damn, I'm so envious. Any 2 year-old randomly >>>>>>> pressing >>>>>>> the shutter button could have done better than you. When are you >>>>>>> going >>>>>>> to >>>>>>> learn, any of you, that you CANNOT depend on auto-focus, >>>>>>> auto-exposure, >>>>>>> or >>>>>>> ANY auto modes on any camera? This is why you'll never be a >>>>>>> photographer. >>>>>>> No camera firmware programmer in the world is going to be able to >>>>>>> turn >>>>>>> you >>>>>>> into a photographer. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Okay, enough of entertaining twit trolls like you. I have far better >>>>>>> things >>>>>>> to do than give attention to the terminally self-deluded. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>Who says I wanted the focus on the apple / fingers? >>>>>> >>>>>>The title was "Still trying to decide," which alludes back to the old >>>>>>Adam >>>>>>/ >>>>>>Eve episode. Given the title, the apple indicates the choice between >>>>>>good >>>>>>and evil, nature and commerce, the simple life and the good life. >>>>>>That >>>>>>choice isn't alway easy / clear. >>>>>> >>>>>>The partial glimpse of the over-exposed wall and furniture in the >>>>>>background >>>>>>represent our tendency to put too much emphasis on comfort and >>>>>>security, >>>>>>over-looking the ethics of our choice, which is why the apple isn't >>>>>>clear. >>>>>> >>>>>>Isn't it interesting how the non-traditional use of photographic >>>>>>elements >>>>>>can produce a distinct impression. >>>>>> >>>>>>But, you'll probably never put that much thought into a production >>>>>>image, >>>>>>let alone a test shot... >>>>>> >>>>>>Take Care, >>>>>>Dudley >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> If you have to explain a photo (or in your case, invent stories to try >>>>> to >>>>> justify why you're a failure as a photographer), then you have failed. >>>>> Either way. >>>>> >>>>> Why don't you go bother your daughter for attention? Or has she had >>>>> enough >>>>> of your bullshit too? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>So, Da Vinci is a failure because people are still debating the Mona >>>>Lisa? >>>>By your logic, everybody should just "know" what it's all about? >>> >>> Da Vinci wasn't a failure, because he didn't sit there like a whiny baby >>> trying to make excuses for what he was trying to paint. Nor did he >>> include >>> paragraphs of text trying to convince others that what they are seeing >>> is >>> different than what he had intended.. Those that are wasting their lives >>> debating his art are the failures. Just as you are. >>> >>> YOU ARE NOT AN ARTIST! BY ANY STRETCH OF THE IMAGINATION. Get that >>> through >>> your fuckin' thick skull. You're a lame crapshooter who can't even see >>> what >>> he's snapping off with his auto-everything cameras. That's all you are >>> and >>> will ever be. >>> >>> Oh, and a troll on usenet. That too. That's all you are. >>> >>> Why oh why did Gates have to include "accessibility" modes in his >>> software? >>> Now we have to put up with delusional twits like you. >>> >>> >> >>I must have struck a nerve with that last comment... >> >>:) >> >>Anyway, think about it (if you can), I title a pic "still trying to >>decide," >>which contains an apple as the largest element. Most, sane, people with >>any >>kind of art / literature / religious background (which you profess to >>possess) will automatically think "Adam and Eve" / "The Fall of Man," >>etc... >>But, you don't... >> >>Instead, you accuse me of "inventing" a rationale for a pic I've already >>labelled with a title that points in the direction of my explanation... >> >>Then, you go off on a rant about Da Vinci being so great because your own >>logic paints him and I in a similar light? And, your logic makes my >>explanation / image seem rather, er, well, artistic? >> >>Now, GR, you've gone from making yourself look like a bigot to making >>yourself look like a completely bigotted airhead... >> >>Thanks, you're making me look good ... ;) >> >>Trolling trolls is SOOOO much fun... ;) >> >>Take Care, >>Dudley >> > > The only advice left for you ... seek out practitioners that prescribe > anti-psychotic medications. Your refusal to accept your station in life > now > has left you 100% delusional. > > Excuse me while I go visit rec.arts.dancing and now discuss the same thing > with a quadriplegic who insists he's going to be a great ballet dancer one > day if only he keeps flopping around on the floor long enough. > > His problem is identical to yours. > Ah, GR, / LOL / Jerry / Jeff, don't go away jus' 'cause ya made yerself look like an idyit... Show me some of that incredible intellect that helped you retire at 25! I'm really hoping you can teach me something, about the art / science of photography ... After all, you've clearly demonstrated how much thought you put into the area... ;) Take Care, Dudley PS, wish the guy luck from me... I hope everybody gets a chance to live THEIR dream, especially those who won't let convention limit their aspirations...
From: Vance on 29 May 2010 14:17 On May 29, 8:43 am, John McWilliams <jp...(a)comcast.net> wrote: > Vance wrote: > > On May 29, 7:33 am, John McWilliams <jp...(a)comcast.net> wrote: > >> The pest of many names is not insane most likely, but is consumed by > >> such hate and fear that he's frozen in a pattern of anonymous, hateful > >> and frequent harassment of any who'll respond. Er, well, maybe that's > >> one definition of insane.. > > > He's not insane, but his posts across several forums display a > > personality that combines characteristics of both narssisistic and > > antisocial personality disorders. Of the two, the antisocial > > characteristics are more forward, but the foundation may be in the > > weak ego structure indicated by the narssisistic tendency. > > No argument. > Do you realize, Vance, that a number of usenet folk won't see your posts > as you're using Google to post from? > > -- > john mcwilliams I know, but usenet isn't that important to me. Google is convenient and provides all the functionality that I need. If I'm flltered out, so be it. I haven't got anything at stake. Vance
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