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From: Archimedes Plutonium on 14 Jun 2010 03:16


Archimedes Plutonium wrote:
(snipped)
> Atom Totality summary:
> (1) The theories mirror reflect the state of art of engineering
> technology whether in the
> ability to build devices to make accurate measurement or to simply
> peer into or look into
> a subject realm. So the theories are no better than the state of
> engineering at the time.
> (2) The discovery of a theory of science is a chain of events where a
> person is picked or
> chosen by the Atom Totality to make the discovery and where the person
> acts like a portal
> or avatar for the discovery. Often the discoverer is an outsider of
> that science subject.
> (3) Knowledge, understanding and science are progressive states not
> conditions of
> absolute-and-forever knowledge, just as the Atom Totality
> is a progression from a Uranium Atom Totality to a Neptunium Atom
> Totality to a Plutonium
> Atom Totality then on to the next higher Atom Totality
> (4) Discovery of a correct science theory depends only on whether the
> Nucleus of the
> Atom Totality picks and choses a person to make the discovery.
>
> Big Bang/ Darwin Evolution summary:
> (1) Special people with their gifted genetics to think clear and
> straight and logical
> coupled with a better environment such as a school education offers
> them the
> better chances of discovery of a theory of science. They are called
> geniuses if
> they do so.
> (2) Whether a correct theory of science is discovered, depends on the
> probability
> of the proper chemicals sloshing around in the brain to put together
> that theory.
> (3) Science and science theories have an "absolute truth or a forever
> quality to them"
> (4) Since scientists have the better genetics to think clearly and
> logically, that
> presented with evidence between two rival theories, these scientists
> should
> for the most part side with the most compelling logic.
> (5) Free will in discovery, in choices of action, and probability
> plays a huge
> role in whether a science theory is discovered and whether engineering
> advances are discovered. Engineering and science theory discovery are
> different
> realms and do not have to move in tandem.
>

Now surprisingly the history of some scientists favors the Atom
Totality with
superdeterminism rather than the Big Bang with Darwin Evolution as the
mechanisms
of how science theories are discovered.

What I mean is that we all need logic and the use of logic in science
endeavor and
especially in discovering a new theory of science. We cannot be doing
science without
logic, without rational thinking. When a scientist becomes irrational
and illogical,
they cease being scientists.

In the history of physics let me note two examples which points to
favoring the
superdeterminism mechanism. The example of Michelson in the Michelson
Morley
famous experiment to determine the motion of the luminiferous aether.
After
Michelson published the null result, he never seemed to be logical and
rational
about his work and continued to repeat the experiment thinking to find
the aether.
And another example is Einstein who in the beginning of the Quantum
Revolution
was a key discoverer of the photoelectric effect, but in his middle
and old age
rebuked the Quantum Mechanics and was never able to accept any of it,
even
after Bohr ironed out all his objections.

In an Atom Totality with superdeterminism, the fate of a scientist is
predetermined
at birth and once those items are finished, one can say the
electricity of science
discovery has been unplugged and the person can thence be rather
unscientific
or even antiscience. In a Big Bang/ Darwin evolution as the engine of
science
discovery, what allows the scientist to make the discovery is the
logic and
rational thinking that gets him/her to the finish line, so it would be
difficult to
understand how in this framework, a scientist becomes almost instantly
antilogical, antiscience, antirational. Michelson and Einstein are two
examples
and I am sure there are plenty more.

Now some will argue that perhaps disease or aging causes delusions and
causes
the antiscience or antilogic to develop after their famous
contribution. That maybe
a explanation of a few scientists but in the case of Michelson and
Einstein, it is
a case of being logical and rational up to the moment of their
discoveries and soon
afterwards a falling off into irrational, illogical and antiscience.

Now I do not know enough of the history of Edison, but there was a
episode in
his life where he became irrational and illogical by attacking AC
current and Tesla.
I do not know if Edison ever discovered anything more after this
attack on
Tesla, but he seems to have become antiscience in attacking Tesla.

So these examples suggest that the Superdeterminism is the more likely
mechanism
of discovery in science, because we are predetermined to do what was
fated, and once
accomplished, we, like some wound up robot puppet can radically veer
off into
illogic and antiscience. If Darwin evoluton were the mechanism, we
would have
been so pavlov dog trained to do logical things and rational things
that we would
not veer off course so drastically.

I am not going to make some big issue out of this, but only to cite
some
observations.


Archimedes Plutonium
http://www.iw.net/~a_plutonium/
whole entire Universe is just one big atom
where dots of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies
From: porky_pig_jr on 14 Jun 2010 14:16
On Jun 14, 3:16 am, Archimedes Plutonium
<plutonium.archime...(a)gmail.com> wrote:

> What I mean is that we all need logic and the use of logic in science
> endeavor and
> especially in discovering a new theory of science. We cannot be doing
> science without
> logic, without rational thinking. When a scientist becomes irrational
> and illogical,
> they cease being scientists.
>

Yes, Archie. Those irrational and illogical beings are better known as
crackpots. Welcome aboard!
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