From: Railhound on
I agree with your point but what has happened to me is my anti virus software
F-Secure has damaged some files. In fact, I would suggest that a good many
things that are report here and in other palces are due to anti-virsus
software erroneously deleting certian files.

Anyway, I would like to run the SFC program but my Windoiws version is an
OEM version so I don't have the original CDs only a recovery copy so I can't
make a slipstrem version of SP3 (at least not that I know of).

Any suggestions to get the correct files for SFC to repair them?

"Jose" wrote:

> On Mar 6, 8:03 pm, Jan Philips <youknowwhat.mccra...(a)comcast.net>
> wrote:
> > I tried to run a system file check. It said to insert the XP SP3
> > disc. My computer came with something older (I don't remember which
> > SP, but it was about 2-1/2 years ago). Is there a way to run a SFC
> > without the SP3 disc?
> > --
> > Replace you know what by j to email
>
> Sure, you can run it the system file checker.
>
> Click Start, Run and in the box enter:
>
> sfc /scnnow
>
> Unless your system has been compromised by malicious software or the
> built in Windows File Protection function is broken SFC should find
> nothing to do. It will give you a good feeling if it runs without
> finding anything. If it finds something to do, you have now or have
> had some other problem.
>
> If you have SP3 installed and only posses an SP1 or SP2 installation
> CD, running sfc /scannow will complain - a lot. The messages may not
> be errors, but just informational messages. It will check 3498 files
> that Windows considers important.
>
> This is because it is trying to match and compare files and the
> installed SP does not match up with what is on the installation CD.
>
> You can read about why and perhaps make an adjustment to get it to
> work by reading this article. It depends on your system:
>
> http://www.updatexp.com/scannow-sfc.html
>
> To prevent this, you can use your old XP installation CD to make a new
> installation CD with SP3 included (slipstream) and then run sfc /
> scannow using the up to date CD as a reference. This slipstreamed CD
> is a good thing to have anyway in case you need to fix something some
> other day.
>
> Thinking that running sfc /scannow will work right out of the chute is
> an expectation that generally exceeds reality unless you are prepared
> in advance with an installation CD that matches your currently
> installed service pack (usually you have to make such a CD).
>
> It most certainly should run without a hitch when all the pieces are
> in place and result in a warm fuzzy feeling, but I have personally
> never seen it resolve any problem that was not caused by something
> else and will never even recommend it, but that could just be me.
>
> When it comes to shoot in the dark troubleshooting, the advice to "run
> sfc /scannow" is rarely preceded by the "before you run sfc /
> scannow..." advice which generates more confusion, concern and
> questions shortly afterwards.
>
> Please do try it though and see how you get on. It won't hurt
> anything and you should want it to work. If it doesn't work, we can
> try to make it work to make you feel better. It makes me feel better
> to see it find nothing to do and not complain.
>
> When sfc /scannow runs successfully, you will see a starting and
> complete message in the Event Log. It can take a long time to run and
> slow your system down - a lot. When it starts and stops succesfully
> you will see events like this in the Event log:
>
> Event Type: Information
> Event Source: Windows File Protection
> Event Category: None
> Event ID: 64016
> Windows File Protection file scan was started.
>
> Event Type: Information
> Event Source: Windows File Protection
> Event Category: None
> Event ID: 64017
> Windows File Protection file scan completed successfully.
>
> Note that sfc /scannow will not run in Safe Mode (try it) and will
> generate this error if you do try it:
>
> Windows File Protection could not initiate a scan of protected system
> files.
> The specific error code is 0x000006ba [The RPC server is
> unavailable.].
>
> You cannot start the RPC Server in Safe Mode either.
>
> If you are having some particular issue of suspicious files, describe
> what the issue is and we can help with that.
>
> .
>
From: Jose on
On Jun 4, 2:36 pm, Railhound <Railho...(a)discussions.microsoft.com>
wrote:
> I agree with your point but what has happened to me is my anti virus software
>  F-Secure has damaged some files. In fact, I would suggest that a good many
> things that are report here and in other palces are due to anti-virsus
> software erroneously deleting certian files.
>
> Anyway, I would like to run the SFC program but my Windoiws version is an
> OEM version so I don't have the original CDs only a recovery copy so I can't
> make a slipstrem version of SP3 (at least not that I know of).
>
> Any suggestions to get the correct files for SFC to repair them?
>
>
>
> "Jose" wrote:
> > On Mar 6, 8:03 pm, Jan Philips <youknowwhat.mccra...(a)comcast.net>
> > wrote:
> > > I tried to run a system file check.  It said to insert the XP SP3
> > > disc.  My computer came with something older (I don't remember which
> > > SP, but it was about 2-1/2 years ago).  Is there a way to run a SFC
> > > without the SP3 disc?
> > > --
> > > Replace you know what by j to email
>
> > Sure, you can run it the system file checker.
>
> > Click Start, Run and in the box enter:
>
> > sfc /scnnow
>
> > Unless your system has been compromised by malicious software or the
> > built in Windows File Protection function is broken SFC should find
> > nothing to do.  It will give you a good feeling if it runs without
> > finding anything.  If it finds something to do, you have now or have
> > had some other problem.
>
> > If you have SP3 installed and only posses an SP1 or SP2 installation
> > CD, running sfc /scannow will complain - a lot.  The messages may not
> > be errors, but just informational messages.  It will check 3498 files
> > that Windows considers important.
>
> > This is because it is trying to match and compare files and the
> > installed SP does not match up with what is on the installation CD.
>
> > You can read about why and perhaps make an adjustment to get it to
> > work by reading this article.  It depends on your system:
>
> >http://www.updatexp.com/scannow-sfc.html
>
> > To prevent this, you can use your old XP installation CD to make a new
> > installation CD with SP3 included (slipstream) and then run sfc /
> > scannow using the up to date CD as a reference.  This slipstreamed CD
> > is a good thing to have anyway in case you need to fix something some
> > other day.
>
> > Thinking that running sfc /scannow will work right out of the chute is
> > an expectation that generally exceeds reality unless you are prepared
> > in advance with an installation CD that matches your currently
> > installed service pack (usually you have to make such a CD).
>
> > It most certainly should run without a hitch when all the pieces are
> > in place and result in a warm fuzzy feeling, but I have personally
> > never seen it resolve any problem that was not caused by something
> > else and will never even recommend it, but that could just be me.
>
> > When it comes to shoot in the dark troubleshooting, the advice to "run
> > sfc /scannow" is rarely preceded by the "before you run sfc /
> > scannow..." advice which generates more confusion, concern and
> > questions shortly afterwards.
>
> > Please do try it though and see how you get on.  It won't hurt
> > anything and you should want it to work.  If it doesn't work, we can
> > try to make it work to make you feel better.  It makes me feel better
> > to see it find nothing to do and not complain.
>
> > When sfc /scannow runs successfully, you will see a starting and
> > complete message in the Event Log.  It can take a long time to run and
> > slow your system down - a lot.  When it starts and stops succesfully
> > you will see events like this in the Event log:
>
> > Event Type:        Information
> > Event Source:      Windows File Protection
> > Event Category:    None
> > Event ID:  64016
> > Windows File Protection file scan was started.
>
> > Event Type:        Information
> > Event Source:      Windows File Protection
> > Event Category:    None
> > Event ID:  64017
> > Windows File Protection file scan completed successfully.
>
> > Note that sfc /scannow will not run in Safe Mode (try it) and will
> > generate this error if you do try it:
>
> > Windows File Protection could not initiate a scan of protected system
> > files.
> > The specific error code is 0x000006ba [The RPC server is
> > unavailable.].
>
> > You cannot start the RPC Server in Safe Mode either.
>
> > If you are having some particular issue of suspicious files, describe
> > what the issue is and we can help with that.
>
> > .

Some AV softwares seem to quarantine/delete XP files. I will just say
it must be by mistake...

So far, when I have encountered those situations I have always been
able to fix it and not using sfc /scannow (which should never find
anything to do if your system is not otherwise afflicted). Usually
the system will not even boot afterwards so that makes these things
even more fun!

If your installed SP does not match your installation CD or you only
have some system recovery CD, you are likely to get quickly frustrated
with sfc /scannow. Even if it "works" I have never seen it resolve
any XP problem, but it feels good when it runs successfully.

It is also frustrating to see it suggested as something "to try" when
the necessary parts and pieces to get it to run are not included in
the suggestion as a requirement for it do behave. This results in
more Q&A back and forth and the problem continues to fester.

What is the nature of your system affliction that you think sfc /
scannow will remedy?