From: amy666 on 25 Dec 2008 08:05 > Gottfried wrote : > > > Am 25.12.2008 22:00 schrieb Gottfried Helms: > > > then there is a non-invertible matrix W where > > > > > > P~ * W = W * E // E is > > diag(1,e,e^2,e^3,...) > > > > > > and W is the vandermonde-matrix > > > W = matrix(r=0..inf,c=0..inf c^r/r! ) > > //r=rowindex,c=ol-index > > > > > It should be noted as a curiosity, that P is > > a triangular matrix with unit-diagonal. For finite > > dimension the eigenvalues for such a matrix are > > uniquely determined and they equal the entries of > the > > matrix-diagonal. > > In the case of infinite dimension, using a somehow > > "generalized" eigenvector-matrix, it seems, we can > > have eigenvalues, which differ from the triangular > > matrix-diagonal. So we have a nice example here > for > > a new property of infinite matrices compared to > > finite matrices. > > > > This is even more interesting, since we had from > the > > diagonalization-approach to tetration, that we > > expected > > *different* (infinite) sets of eigenvalues, which > > reflect > > the different possible fixpoint-shifts. From the > > consideration > > of finite matrices we could not even think about > > different sets > > of eigenvalues... > > > > Hmmm... > > > > Gottfried Helms > > hmm > > is there a name for this property ? > > or is this what you call fixpoint shift ? > > i cant find much about infinite matrices ... > > the concept only seems to occur in connection to > tetration ? > > intresting. > > perhaps post it to tetration forum. > > and give me some credit , since i came with A^C :) > > > marry Xmas > > regards > > tommy1729 someone wrote a paper about the diverging of solution limits to tetration. he was more into series but i think its an analogue. cant remember his name though. regards tommy1729
From: amy666 on 25 Dec 2008 08:02 Gottfried wrote : > Am 25.12.2008 22:00 schrieb Gottfried Helms: > > then there is a non-invertible matrix W where > > > > P~ * W = W * E // E is > diag(1,e,e^2,e^3,...) > > > > and W is the vandermonde-matrix > > W = matrix(r=0..inf,c=0..inf c^r/r! ) > //r=rowindex,c=ol-index > > > It should be noted as a curiosity, that P is > a triangular matrix with unit-diagonal. For finite > dimension the eigenvalues for such a matrix are > uniquely determined and they equal the entries of the > matrix-diagonal. > In the case of infinite dimension, using a somehow > "generalized" eigenvector-matrix, it seems, we can > have eigenvalues, which differ from the triangular > matrix-diagonal. So we have a nice example here for > a new property of infinite matrices compared to > finite matrices. > > This is even more interesting, since we had from the > diagonalization-approach to tetration, that we > expected > *different* (infinite) sets of eigenvalues, which > reflect > the different possible fixpoint-shifts. From the > consideration > of finite matrices we could not even think about > different sets > of eigenvalues... > > Hmmm... > > Gottfried Helms hmm is there a name for this property ? or is this what you call fixpoint shift ? i cant find much about infinite matrices ... the concept only seems to occur in connection to tetration ? intresting. perhaps post it to tetration forum. and give me some credit , since i came with A^C :) marry Xmas regards tommy1729
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