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From: Sue... on 8 Jun 2010 17:18
On Jun 8, 5:00 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Jun 8, 1:49 pm, "Sue..." <suzysewns...(a)yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>
> > On Jun 8, 3:01 pm, "I. F." <exformat...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > hi,
>
> > > usually, if the time is dilated by K then one length is contracted by
> > > K, but in the general case, in general relativity, this is more
> > > complex, with many rotated charged bodies, stars, planets, black
> > > holes, and so on...
> > > is it ALWAYS true or can anyone prove that if the VOLUME is contracted
> > > by K, then the time is dilated by K?
>
> > > please reply this question!
>
> > The proof is one of pure mathematics, like:

On Jun 5, 12:22 pm, Uncle Al <Uncle...(a)hate.spam.net> wrote:

>
> NO. It is theory. Particle accelerator scientsists simply put it in by
> hand. There is no way they can see what the particle sees.

On Jun 5, 12:22 pm, Uncle Al <Uncle...(a)hate.spam.net> wrote:
"idiot"

>
> Lopsidedness of the fundamental atom form proves there is no
> contraction. I'll will argue anyone on that account.

Then you must show that you can alter the
real flight time from London to New York
by folding the pilot's chart various ways as
you sit in a passenger seat. That is
what you are claiming!

<< Einstein's relativity principle states that:

All inertial frames are totally equivalent
for the performance of all physical experiments.

In other words, it is impossible to perform a physical
experiment which differentiates in any fundamental sense
between different inertial frames. By definition, Newton's
laws of motion take the same form in all inertial frames.
Einstein generalized[1] this result in his special theory of
relativity by asserting that all laws of physics take the
same form in all inertial frames. >>
http://farside.ph.utexas.edu/teaching/em/lectures/node108.html

[1]<< the four-dimensional space-time continuum of the
theory of relativity, in its most essential formal
properties, shows a pronounced relationship to the
three-dimensional continuum of Euclidean geometrical space.
In order to give due prominence to this relationship,
however, we must replace the usual time co-ordinate t by
an imaginary magnitude

sqrt(-1)

ct proportional to it. Under these conditions, the
natural laws satisfying the demands of the (special)
theory of relativity assume mathematical forms, in which
the time co-ordinate plays exactly the same rôle as
the three space co-ordinates. >>
http://www.bartleby.com/173/17.html

<< where epsilon_0 and mu_0 are physical constants which
can be evaluated by performing two simple experiments
which involve measuring the force of attraction between
two fixed charges and two fixed parallel current carrying
wires. According to the relativity principle, these experiments
must yield the same values for epsilon_0 and mu_0 in all
inertial frames. Thus, the speed of light must be the
same in all inertial frames. >>
http://farside.ph.utexas.edu/teaching/em/lectures/node108.html



On Jun 5, 12:22 pm, Uncle Al <Uncle...(a)hate.spam.net> wrote:
"idiot"
>
> There are no flat atoms.

You are about 100 years late in that
observation.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lorentz_ether_theory

On Jun 5, 12:22 pm, Uncle Al <Uncle...(a)hate.spam.net> wrote:
"idiot"

Sue...
<eyes pitching where rolling and yawing strains the optic nerve>

>
> Mitch Raemsch
>

From: BURT on 8 Jun 2010 17:27
On Jun 8, 2:18 pm, "Sue..." <suzysewns...(a)yahoo.com.au> wrote:
> On Jun 8, 5:00 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jun 8, 1:49 pm, "Sue..." <suzysewns...(a)yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>
> > > On Jun 8, 3:01 pm, "I. F." <exformat...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > hi,
>
> > > > usually, if the time is dilated by K then one length is contracted by
> > > > K, but in the general case, in general relativity, this is more
> > > > complex, with many rotated charged bodies, stars, planets, black
> > > > holes, and so on...
> > > > is it ALWAYS true or can anyone prove that if the VOLUME is contracted
> > > > by K, then the time is dilated by K?
>
> > > > please reply this question!
>
> > > The proof is one of pure mathematics, like:
>
> On Jun 5, 12:22 pm, Uncle Al <Uncle...(a)hate.spam.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> > NO. It is theory. Particle accelerator scientsists simply put it in by
> > hand. There is no way they can see what the particle sees.
>
> On Jun 5, 12:22 pm, Uncle Al <Uncle...(a)hate.spam.net> wrote:
> "idiot"
>
>
>
> > Lopsidedness of the fundamental atom form proves there is no
> > contraction. I'll will argue anyone on that account.
>
> Then you must show that you can alter the
> real flight time from London to New York
> by folding the pilot's chart various ways as
> you sit in a passenger seat. That is
> what you are claiming!
>
> << Einstein's relativity principle states that:
>
>      All inertial frames are totally equivalent
>      for the performance of all physical experiments.
>
> In other words, it is impossible to perform a physical
> experiment which differentiates in any fundamental sense
> between different inertial frames. By definition, Newton's
> laws of motion take the same form in all inertial frames.
> Einstein generalized[1] this result in his special theory of
> relativity by asserting that all laws of physics take the
> same form in all inertial frames. >>http://farside.ph.utexas.edu/teaching/em/lectures/node108.html
>
> [1]<< the four-dimensional space-time continuum of the
> theory of relativity, in its most essential formal
> properties, shows a pronounced relationship to the
> three-dimensional continuum of Euclidean geometrical space.
> In order to give due prominence to this relationship,
> however, we must replace the usual time co-ordinate t by
> an imaginary magnitude
>
>    sqrt(-1)
>
> ct proportional to it. Under these conditions, the
> natural laws satisfying the demands of the (special)
> theory of relativity assume mathematical forms, in which
> the time co-ordinate plays exactly the same rôle as
> the three space co-ordinates. >>http://www.bartleby.com/173/17.html
>
> << where epsilon_0 and mu_0 are physical constants which
> can be evaluated by performing two simple experiments
> which involve measuring the force of attraction between
> two fixed charges and two fixed parallel current carrying
> wires. According to the relativity principle, these experiments
> must yield the same values for epsilon_0 and mu_0 in all
> inertial frames. Thus, the speed of light must be the
> same in all inertial frames. >>http://farside.ph.utexas.edu/teaching/em/lectures/node108.html
>
> On Jun 5, 12:22 pm, Uncle Al <Uncle...(a)hate.spam.net> wrote:
> "idiot"
>
>
>
> > There are no flat atoms.
>
> You are about 100 years late in that
> observation.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lorentz_ether_theory
>
> On Jun 5, 12:22 pm, Uncle Al <Uncle...(a)hate.spam.net> wrote:
> "idiot"
>
> Sue...
> <eyes pitching where rolling and yawing strains the optic nerve>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Mitch Raemsch- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Maximum gravity for the Earth is from the top of the atmosphere to the
center of the Earth. Einstein maintained that gravity strength was
equal in that contractile curvature -inside- any density of mass.

Mitch Raemsch ; Question revoke relativity
From: I. F. on 8 Jun 2010 18:37
Thank you, but I have not yet found any clear statement or explanation
about the conservation of the space-time volume in any general
relativity, i.e if the volume is contracted by k, then the time is
dilated by k

I would be very grateful if anyone knows the answer and could provide
it
From: BURT on 8 Jun 2010 18:41
On Jun 8, 3:37 pm, "I. F." <exformat...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Thank you, but I have not yet found any clear statement or explanation
> about the conservation of the space-time volume in any general
> relativity, i.e if the volume is contracted by k, then the time is
> dilated by k
>
> I would be very grateful if anyone knows the answer and could provide
> it

There is no length contraction along distance heading straight toward
center of gravity. Contracting distance in the atom form size means
contraction of atoms. And that does not work as a physics.

No. There is no contraction but distance can expand along with the
entire universe. This is time expansion.

Mitch Raemsch
From: BURT on 8 Jun 2010 18:45
On Jun 8, 3:41 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Jun 8, 3:37 pm, "I. F." <exformat...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Thank you, but I have not yet found any clear statement or explanation
> > about the conservation of the space-time volume in any general
> > relativity, i.e if the volume is contracted by k, then the time is
> > dilated by k
>
> > I would be very grateful if anyone knows the answer and could provide
> > it
>
> There is no length contraction along distance heading straight toward
> center of gravity. Contracting distance in the atom form size means
> contraction of atoms. And that does not work as a physics.
>
> No. There is no contraction but distance can expand along with the
> entire universe. This is time expansion.
>
> Mitch Raemsch

Time expansion is inbetween energy.

Mitch Raemsch
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