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From: "HallMarc Websites" on 19 Aug 2010 13:30 -----Original Message----- From: Ashley Sheridan [mailto:ash(a)ashleysheridan.co.uk] Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 11:33 AM To: e-letter Cc: David McGlone; php-general(a)lists.php.net Subject: Re: [PHP] tutorial failure On Thu, 2010-08-19 at 16:30 +0100, e-letter wrote: > On 19/08/2010, Ashley Sheridan <ash(a)ashleysheridan.co.uk> wrote: > > As Colin suggested on another email, check to see if apache-mod_php was > > installed too. It seems likely that it wasn't for some reason. > > How to verify please? Also, the instruction to use task-lamp; it seems > this is for mysql but the database to be used is postgresql? Use the package manager to check and see if that was installed. I'm not familiar with the command line for rpmi, having used Yum on Fedora mostly, but on that you would just do a 'yum list apache-mod*' to see what apache mods were installed and available, so I assume something similar exists for rpmi. The task-lamp will be using MySQL, as it is the 'm' of lamp (Linux, Apache, MySQL & PHP) Thanks, Ash http://www.ashleysheridan.co.uk I agree with the earlier take on this situation; you need to start at the beginning and learn the basics regarding the technologies BEFORE you try and manage them. You're trying to drive a car when you don't even know what or car is and how to operate one so you keep crashing. Here are some great sites to check out: http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/ http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleID=1868 http://www.wikivs.com/wiki/MySQL_vs_PostgreSQL http://www.w3schools.com/ There are some great books out there as well to help you learn and I recommend getting the reference guides as well. Since the gist of this thread seems to be focused on the LAPP set-up and mainly an Apache (?) configuration issue you might try the forums and mailing lists found there as well. I hope you find this helpful. Marc Hall HallMarc Websites "Well, if all else fails; read the directions." - Dear old Dad, RIP __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 5379 (20100819) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 5379 (20100819) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com
From: e-letter on 19 Aug 2010 14:04 On 19/08/2010, HallMarc Websites <sales(a)hallmarcwebsites.com> wrote: > I agree with the earlier take on this situation; you need to start at the > beginning and learn the basics regarding the technologies BEFORE you try and > manage them. You're trying to drive a car when you don't even know what or > car is and how to operate one so you keep crashing. > > Here are some great sites to check out: > http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/ > http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleID=1868 > http://www.wikivs.com/wiki/MySQL_vs_PostgreSQL > http://www.w3schools.com/ > There are some great books out there as well to help you learn and I > recommend getting the reference guides as well. Since the gist of this > thread seems to be focused on the LAPP set-up and mainly an Apache (?) > configuration issue you might try the forums and mailing lists found there > as well. > No response from apache forum. Looking at the web browser output from the processing of the php file, the partial success of processing the file suggests that the problem is with php; if it was due to apache, html code would be affected as well?
From: Ashley Sheridan on 19 Aug 2010 17:24 On Thu, 2010-08-19 at 19:04 +0100, e-letter wrote: > On 19/08/2010, HallMarc Websites <sales(a)hallmarcwebsites.com> wrote: > > I agree with the earlier take on this situation; you need to start at the > > beginning and learn the basics regarding the technologies BEFORE you try and > > manage them. You're trying to drive a car when you don't even know what or > > car is and how to operate one so you keep crashing. > > > > Here are some great sites to check out: > > http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/ > > http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleID=1868 > > http://www.wikivs.com/wiki/MySQL_vs_PostgreSQL > > http://www.w3schools.com/ > > There are some great books out there as well to help you learn and I > > recommend getting the reference guides as well. Since the gist of this > > thread seems to be focused on the LAPP set-up and mainly an Apache (?) > > configuration issue you might try the forums and mailing lists found there > > as well. > > > No response from apache forum. Looking at the web browser output from > the processing of the php file, the partial success of processing the > file suggests that the problem is with php; if it was due to apache, > html code would be affected as well? > No, because Apache doesn't need to process HTML in the same way it needs to process PHP. The tag <?php in your code is being sent down to your browser as HTML (view the source on the page you're browsing to) and interpreted as a tag by your browser, hence what appears to be partially processed output. It's fairly clear by now that Apache does not know about your PHP install (if there even is one) I've just set up and installed PHP and Apache on my Mandriva box since I've been at home, and it took all of 5 minutes from within the package manager. Trust me, it's far easier to go that route than install the packages one-by-one as you seem to be doing as, unless you know exactly what packages you need, it's all too easy to miss installing something. Are you able to install with the package manager, or is installing via the command line absolutely necessary? Thanks, Ash http://www.ashleysheridan.co.uk
From: David McGlone on 19 Aug 2010 18:09 On Thu, 2010-08-19 at 22:24 +0100, Ashley Sheridan wrote: > On Thu, 2010-08-19 at 19:04 +0100, e-letter wrote: > > On 19/08/2010, HallMarc Websites <sales(a)hallmarcwebsites.com> wrote: > > > I agree with the earlier take on this situation; you need to start at the > > > beginning and learn the basics regarding the technologies BEFORE you try and > > > manage them. You're trying to drive a car when you don't even know what or > > > car is and how to operate one so you keep crashing. > > > > > > Here are some great sites to check out: > > > http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/ > > > http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleID=1868 > > > http://www.wikivs.com/wiki/MySQL_vs_PostgreSQL > > > http://www.w3schools.com/ > > > There are some great books out there as well to help you learn and I > > > recommend getting the reference guides as well. Since the gist of this > > > thread seems to be focused on the LAPP set-up and mainly an Apache (?) > > > configuration issue you might try the forums and mailing lists found there > > > as well. > > > > > No response from apache forum. Looking at the web browser output from > > the processing of the php file, the partial success of processing the > > file suggests that the problem is with php; if it was due to apache, > > html code would be affected as well? > > > > No, because Apache doesn't need to process HTML in the same way it > needs to process PHP. The tag <?php in your code is being sent down to > your browser as HTML (view the source on the page you're browsing to) > and interpreted as a tag by your browser, hence what appears to be > partially processed output. > > It's fairly clear by now that Apache does not know about your PHP > install (if there even is one) This is my suspicion also. > > I've just set up and installed PHP and Apache on my Mandriva box since > I've been at home, and it took all of 5 minutes What was the name of the PHP package you installed? I E-Mailed him offline and had him run the command rpm -q php5 to try and figure out if php was installed and he replied with this: <quote> > No package by this name in the repository; have libphp5_common5 > installed. </quote> Well I don't know what the name of the php5 in mandrake, so I can't tell whether he's actually got php installed at all. -- Blessings, David M.
From: Ashley Sheridan on 19 Aug 2010 18:16
On Thu, 2010-08-19 at 18:09 -0400, David McGlone wrote: > On Thu, 2010-08-19 at 22:24 +0100, Ashley Sheridan wrote: > > On Thu, 2010-08-19 at 19:04 +0100, e-letter wrote: > > > On 19/08/2010, HallMarc Websites <sales(a)hallmarcwebsites.com> wrote: > > > > I agree with the earlier take on this situation; you need to start at the > > > > beginning and learn the basics regarding the technologies BEFORE you try and > > > > manage them. You're trying to drive a car when you don't even know what or > > > > car is and how to operate one so you keep crashing. > > > > > > > > Here are some great sites to check out: > > > > http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/ > > > > http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleID=1868 > > > > http://www.wikivs.com/wiki/MySQL_vs_PostgreSQL > > > > http://www.w3schools.com/ > > > > There are some great books out there as well to help you learn and I > > > > recommend getting the reference guides as well. Since the gist of this > > > > thread seems to be focused on the LAPP set-up and mainly an Apache (?) > > > > configuration issue you might try the forums and mailing lists found there > > > > as well. > > > > > > > No response from apache forum. Looking at the web browser output from > > > the processing of the php file, the partial success of processing the > > > file suggests that the problem is with php; if it was due to apache, > > > html code would be affected as well? > > > > > > > No, because Apache doesn't need to process HTML in the same way it > > needs to process PHP. The tag <?php in your code is being sent down to > > your browser as HTML (view the source on the page you're browsing to) > > and interpreted as a tag by your browser, hence what appears to be > > partially processed output. > > > > It's fairly clear by now that Apache does not know about your PHP > > install (if there even is one) > > > This is my suspicion also. > > > > > I've just set up and installed PHP and Apache on my Mandriva box since > > I've been at home, and it took all of 5 minutes > > What was the name of the PHP package you installed? I E-Mailed him > offline and had him run the command rpm -q php5 to try and figure out if > php was installed and he replied with this: > > <quote> > > No package by this name in the repository; have libphp5_common5 > > installed. > </quote> > > Well I don't know what the name of the php5 in mandrake, so I can't tell > whether he's actually got php installed at all. > > > -- > Blessings, > David M. > > I used the GUI: K-Menu->Configure your Computer->Install & Remove Software Then searched for 'php', and the first package listed was apache-mod_php, which I installed along with the other php modules that I normally install (like GD, mcrypt, etc). The package manager sorts out dependencies very well. I'm not sure if installing over the command line with rpmi will deal with dependencies like this, and it certainly won't automatically install apache-mod_php if php is installed, as php doesn't necessarily *have* to run as a web server module, let alone as an Apache one specifically. Thanks, Ash http://www.ashleysheridan.co.uk |