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From: Joe Pfeiffer on 17 May 2010 00:16 felmon <nemo(a)nowhere.INVALID> writes: > On Mon, 17 May 2010 00:21:39 +0100, Lusotec wrote: > >> felmon wrote: >> >>> On Sun, 16 May 2010 22:15:59 +0200, Thomas Richter wrote: >>> >>>> felmon wrote: >>>>> >>>>> nothing about it shows up in hwinfo or in lspci. >>>> >>>> If lspci doesn't show the card, it is broken. I once had a Nova TV >>>> from Hauppauge that showed the same symptoms. Returned it back to the >>>> shop, got a new one - and that worked. >>>> >>>> Greetings, >>>> Thomas >>> >>> I am skeptical. it works fine in a Lenovo Thinkcentre I have access to >>> (had it running yesterday fine and I am sure when I put it back in the >>> Thinkcentre, it will work again. >>> >>> and it worked fine on the motherboard I am trying to replace. >>> >>> further a garden-variety (albeit ancient) nic also fails to show up but >>> I've used that nic for yrs in the other system. >>> >>> nothing I have (the tv card, the nic - netgear fa311 rev-b1) shows up >>> on the pci bus. >> >> Maybe there is some incorrect settings in the BIOS. Try loading the >> defaults, or safe settings. It can also be the motherboard that has some >> problem. >> >> Regards. > > no joy. > > I tried both 'optimized defaults' and 'custom defaults'. > > like I said, I suspected the motherboard but the fellow did that 'post' > test on two or three of the pci slots and was satisfied. I don't know if > such a test is adequate. (bottomline for him is that he won't take the > board back.) This won't be terribly helpful, but I've had the experience of going 'round in circles with a computer shop proprietor about some bad memory; whatever test he ran (I suspect it's the "test" that's part of POST) showed no errors while memtest86 flunked it. Wasn't a pleasant conversation. It sounds, from what you've posted, like the motherboard is toast. Have you googled to see if this board either is a known problem, or needs some obscure setting? Failing that, your options are to chalk it up to experience and buy another board (and never darken that shop's door again), or insist they take it back (which may end up reverting to option one, of course). -- As we enjoy great advantages from the inventions of others, we should be glad of an opportunity to serve others by any invention of ours; and this we should do freely and generously. (Benjamin Franklin)
From: terryc on 17 May 2010 00:29 On Sun, 16 May 2010 15:00:14 -0500, felmon wrote: > after fruitless hrs of futzing, I realized that the card was not being > detected. (it also failed to detect an old nic card I put in and > removed. If lspci does not see it, all you can do is reseat and/or try another slot and/or remove/reorder any/all other pci cards. The system has to see the card in the first place. Then, IME, I've have always had to manually load the correct modules, for both pci and AT cards. This requires you to look very, very carefully at the chips on the card and make sure you have the correct/best one. I have not had a lot of success (nil actually) getting TV to work in linux, but image capture was usually not a problem and radio(if a card option) usually worked when I could be bothered to try it. Caveat, my cards are not Haupage but Twainese and it was ten years ago that I was last successful (RH system). No luck recently on a Debian stable system.
From: felmon on 17 May 2010 00:38 On Sun, 16 May 2010 22:16:42 -0600, Joe Pfeiffer wrote: > It sounds, from what you've posted, like the motherboard is toast. yes. a sad conclusion I am drawing. > Have you googled to see if this board either is a known problem, > or needs some obscure setting? yeah, I've looked around and haven't found anything specific to this board or much in general ('motherboard'+'pci problems'). have studied the BIOS settings religiously but no revelations. I did want to try to put a Windows hard-drive in, see what Windows would say, but the one I have is already 'grub-ified' so it won't boot. too much trouble - especially since I pretty much trust what lspci and hwinfo are saying. > Failing that, your options are to chalk it up to experience and buy > another board (and never darken that shop's door again), or insist they > take it back (which may end up reverting to option one, of course). sad again but I think you are right. meanwhile the tv card is happily pumping out pixels in the other machine. Felmon
From: felmon on 17 May 2010 00:46 On Mon, 17 May 2010 04:29:13 +0000, terryc wrote: > On Sun, 16 May 2010 15:00:14 -0500, felmon wrote: > > >> after fruitless hrs of futzing, I realized that the card was not being >> detected. (it also failed to detect an old nic card I put in and >> removed. > > If lspci does not see it, all you can do is reseat and/or try another > slot and/or remove/reorder any/all other pci cards. The system has to > see the card in the first place. amen. only one pci card and I have tried all slots (except one). I guess that could be the lucky one. > Then, IME, I've have always had to manually load the correct modules, > for both pci and AT cards. This requires you to look very, very > carefully at the chips on the card and make sure you have the > correct/best one. once it is visible to lspci I shouldn't have a problem. been using this card for many yrs. > I have not had a lot of success (nil actually) getting TV to work in > linux, but image capture was usually not a problem and radio(if a card > option) usually worked when I could be bothered to try it. I use the dvd-recorder if I want to record programs. the tv card is just there so I can look at pictures as a momentary distraction from work or do a little occasional viewing (when I should be working). > Caveat, my cards are not Haupage but Twainese and it was ten years ago > that I was last successful (RH system). No luck recently on a Debian > stable system. sorry to hear that. had painful experiences with some recent cards over xmas thus I'm sticking with this old Hauppauge which works to my satisfaction (Debian, OpenSUSE). tv's running now in Debian. Felmon
From: philo on 20 May 2010 05:34
On 05/16/2010 11:38 PM, felmon wrote: > On Sun, 16 May 2010 22:16:42 -0600, Joe Pfeiffer wrote: > > >> It sounds, from what you've posted, like the motherboard is toast. > > yes. a sad conclusion I am drawing. > >> Have you googled to see if this board either is a known problem, >> or needs some obscure setting? > > yeah, I've looked around and haven't found anything specific to this > board or much in general ('motherboard'+'pci problems'). > > have studied the BIOS settings religiously but no revelations. > > I did want to try to put a Windows hard-drive in, see what Windows would > say, but the one I have is already 'grub-ified' so it won't boot. too > much trouble - especially since I pretty much trust what lspci and hwinfo > are saying. > >> Failing that, your options are to chalk it up to experience and buy >> another board (and never darken that shop's door again), or insist they >> take it back (which may end up reverting to option one, of course). > > sad again but I think you are right. > > meanwhile the tv card is happily pumping out pixels in the other machine. > > Felmon The mobo is not necessarily bad Check your bios settings and see if the resources for the PCI slots are automatically assigned or manually assigned. "auto" usually does the trick btw: Did you try the device in another slot? I've found that the slot closest to the video card can *sometimes* have problems |